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Forum topic by B4B posted 03-26-2017 06:34 PM 487 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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03-26-2017 06:34 PM

After watching Craigslist for a bandsaw at the right price, I finally acquired one for 75$.

It was listed as a 14 inch bandsaw, the nameplate is montgomery ward model 04fd766a. I wasn’t able to find a manual over at owwm, or any listed with that model number, a couple similar models from the 1950s. I measured the wheels and with the rubber tire they are 15”, the rubber adds about 1/4 inch overall. It looks like I have just shy of 7” re-saw capacity. The blade is 92 inches, or so.

This thing is heavy, it seems to be made almost entirely of cast iron. The person I got it from never ran it, and the wire on the motor was cut. I just got a chance to test it, and the motor runs. It’s a 1/4 hp motor according to the emerson nameplate.

I need to locate a blade, and evaluate the blade guides. I’ll probably give it a fresh coat of paint to help prevent rust.

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#1 posted 03-26-2017 06:48 PM

Go over to old woodworking machines forum. If it’s monkey wards its probably a powr-kraft. Good saws and parts for all kinds of things come up there.

http://vintagemachinery.org/home.aspx

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#2 posted 03-26-2017 06:50 PM

Are you sure that first digit is a zero and not a five?


Montgomery Ward | Powr-Kraft 54FD766A

Cheers,
Brad

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#3 posted 03-26-2017 06:58 PM

I took a look online, and it looks like that saw was made by Power-Kraft for Montgomery Wards.
There are a number of sellers on eBay selling the tires for the wheels.
I find it hard to believe that this would be a 92” blade on a 7” throw, but who knows, Power-Kraft made some strange stuff.
I think it is more likely to be a 93 1/2” blade, (hopefully)
As far as parts or a manual, good luck with that but take a look at vintagemachinery.org, there are a number of Power-Kraft bandsaws on there that look suspiciously like yours.
Looks like they made a LOT of those open wheel door models, and a lot of them have been restored.

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#4 posted 03-26-2017 07:28 PM

Reasonably sure the first digit is 0.

I may have measured wrong, 92 (w/of a blade its hard to tell) was with no tension, with tension it opened up an additional inch or so. 93.5 may work.

I may try to find a cheapo blade to test.

-- There's two routers in my vocab, one that moves data and one that removes wood, the latter being more relevant on this forum.

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#5 posted 03-26-2017 09:39 PM

Ok, according to the vintage machinery site, the first two digits of the number indicate the year made (last two digits of the year, reversed)... so 04 would mean a machine built in 1940. The next two (or three) letters indicate the manufacturer – FD is the code for Duro Metal Products. The picture I linked to above is the same saw, but built in 1945. It was called the ‘766’ saw in the catalogs, a ‘767’ if it came with a motor, and also indicates it takes a 95” blade.

You can find the catalogs here

Cheers,
Brad

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#6 posted 03-27-2017 07:48 PM

I haven’t had a chance to do too much research this weekend, and my search-foo has been weak on this one.

Thanks for the information MrUnix. I took a look though the available catalogs, and didn’t see it in the 1940 catalog, but did find it in the 1941 catalog. http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/657/847.pdf, I wonder if it was made in 1940 and sold/marketed in 1941? No matter, it’s a reference point.

It appears to take 95” blades and the max width is 1/2”. They recommend a 1/2 hp motor, but the one I acquired came with a 1/4 hp motor. I presume that in the time it has changed hands the motor was replaced (perhaps more than once). I’m going to try with the 1/4, but may end up trying to find a 1/2 or even 2/3 HP motor to take it’s place. At the very least it needs a good cleaning as there’s sawdust caked in the windings, it’s an open frame motor.

What’s really odd in looking at pics over at the vintagemachenary site is that there are casted markings on the cover, but mine has no markings in the casting at all. If it wasn’t for the nameplate and a faded sticker I would be clueless as to it’s make/model. never-the-less the thing is heavy probably close to 150 lbs, and that’s not including the base it’s on.

It does appear to have trunions for tilting the table, but all the knobs look to have been replaced with square-headed bolts at some point.

Is the fence on that somewhat standard, or am I going to have to look around for another fence/source from ebay or the like? It didn’t come with one.

-- There's two routers in my vocab, one that moves data and one that removes wood, the latter being more relevant on this forum.

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