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Forum topic by William Shelley posted 03-24-2017 07:29 PM 333 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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William Shelley

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03-24-2017 07:29 PM

Hi all,

I recently bought a floor model jointer/planer with a helical insert type cutterhead. The machine is a Baileigh and the cutterhead says “Warrior Machinery Spiral Tech” on it. The cutters look pretty grungy and I haven’t actually gotten the machine wired up yet so I don’t know if they’re in good shape or not. I went ahead and ordered a set of 10 inserts from Baileigh this morning, which they charged me $90 + $15 shipping. I was a bit aghast at that, because Byrd and other brands charge about $35-45 for a set of 10.

What I’m trying to figure out, for future reference, is whether any other brand cutter inserts are compatible with the ones I bought. I’m willing to pay postage if someone can mail me a Byrd insert, or if someone has a Byrd head and is willing to take the time to inspect and document, I could mail them one of my inserts to compare. These are set at a slight angle and the cutting edge has a subtle radius like the Byrd inserts, so I’m hoping the geometry is the same. The nominal size of each insert is 15mm x 15mm x 2.5mm.

I realize that carbide cutterheads last a LONG time, but this machine has a 16” head with six rows, for a total of 102 inserts and I’m not keen on paying over a grand just for inserts when it does come time to replace these. The other factor is that because it’s a planer and jointer, the inserts will get a lot more wear since they’re doing double-duty.

Below is a bad photo of my equipment:

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Rayne

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#1 posted 03-24-2017 07:41 PM

Don’t forget that each insert can be rotated up to 3 times for a new edge, making them last that much longer, so if you have to replace all 102 heads at some point, then something is seriously wrong with those cutters.

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Fred Hargis

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#2 posted 03-24-2017 08:04 PM

Byrd inserts are 15×15x2.5mm. Amazon has them for $25/10. I forget what the radius is, but it’s not secret info.

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AHuxley

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#3 posted 03-24-2017 08:34 PM

Contact Oella Saw and Tool, they can probably fix you up. The bits will likely be a standard bit that won’t be easy to source but you will may need to provide them precise measurments of the bits.

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William Shelley

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#4 posted 03-24-2017 08:55 PM



Contact Oella Saw and Tool, they can probably fix you up. The bits will likely be a standard bit that won t be easy to source but you will may need to provide them precise measurments of the bits.

- AHuxley

Wow, good suggestion. I checked out their website and they have a huge selection.

Also, just looking at one of their carbide inserts and the description says each edge should be good for about 150,000 board feet. That is reassuring. Even if my inserts aren’t the same grade of carbide, I would still be happy if my inserts lasted for 15,000 board feet per edge.

-- Woodworking from an engineer's perspective

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#5 posted 03-24-2017 09:43 PM



Contact Oella Saw and Tool, they can probably fix you up. The bits will likely be a standard bit that won t be hard to source but you will may need to provide them precise measurments of the bits.

- AHuxley


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AHuxley

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#6 posted 03-24-2017 09:44 PM


Contact Oella Saw and Tool, they can probably fix you up. The bits will likely be a standard bit that won t be easy to source but you will may need to provide them precise measurments of the bits.

- AHuxley

- AHuxley

I meant they would not be HARD to source!

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