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Forum topic by Chris_T posted 10-19-2010 11:24 PM 1380 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Chris_T

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10-19-2010 11:24 PM

Now that I got a jointer (on its way) I want to get a planer, band saw, and a new table saw. I’m not sure what I should get. For the planer I was thinking a Dewalt 735, for the band saw I was thinking the Delta 14 inch, and for the table saw I have no idea. My shop is small so my only options are a contractor saws. Anyone have suggestions on what ts I should get, or all three?


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#1 posted 10-19-2010 11:44 PM

How small is your shop? Dimensions?

What kind of wood working do you plan to do?

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#2 posted 10-19-2010 11:49 PM

I have the Ridgid 3650 contractors saw, and it’s awesome. It’s quiet, heavy, and performs like a cabinet saw. The fence adjusts like butter. Very accurate. If you can find a clean, used one, I would go with that. When new, about 3-4 years ago, they sold for $500.00

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#3 posted 10-19-2010 11:54 PM

There are hybrid saws that take up no more space than a contractor saw, but they are better suited to woodworking.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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#4 posted 10-19-2010 11:58 PM

Unless you are planning on restoring old iron, I would steer clear of the newer Delta band saws… I know I am gonna take some heat for saying this, but I have seen some REAL duds from them… You might want to look into the Polar Bear series Grizzly 14”... A sweet saw at a good price…

If you have the cash to do it you sure have picked a nice planer!

Not sure how a contractor saw would take up less space than say a cabinet saw. The table tops are pretty much standard, unless you are planning on building a custom storage cabinet to use underneath a contractor saw. Actually with the motor sticking out the back of the saw, a contractor table saw would have a bigger footprint than a cabinet saw…

Having said that, you might want to put some consideration into a hybrid, or cabinet saw, something with the motor under the trunion to save some space… Also use the space on the right wing for a router table wing. There are lots of nice cast iron ones on the market, or you can build your own out of whatever you can think of…

If you want to go with a contractor table saw, the old Ridgid TS3650 / TS3660 were VERY well regarded saws… Well worth finding a good used one.

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Chris_T

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#5 posted 10-20-2010 12:25 AM

The reason I wanted a contractor saw is they are portable. I could move one around and take it outside and use it. When I said I have a small shop I meant tiny (10×12). Every tool must be portable (light enough to move) or on a wheeled base. I move things off to the side when not in use and then in the middle when in use. I also set things up outside for the day and move them back in. In a shop like mine good storage and portability are key.

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#6 posted 10-20-2010 09:10 AM

Chris_T, you said,” Every tool must be portable (light enough to move) or on a wheeled base.”

In that case you need to be looking for what’s called a jobsite saw for a table saw.
They have folding, wheeled bases. A couple of good ones are Bosch and Ridgid. These are in the $500 to $600 range. Porter Cable has one at Lowes for about $300 that is the minimum I would want to work on.
All these saws mentioned have standard miter slots and can use at least 6” dado blades.

Your choice of the Dewalt planer is probably a good one. It’s portable and gets good reviews.

Most all the major brand 14” band saws are very similar. Jet, Delta, Grizzly, Powermatic, Rikon, General.
I have a small 10” Rikon and like it, but it is not going to be my only band saw. I am building a 16”.

I have to ask, why did you start with a jointer? What size do you have coming?
The reason I ask is because most people start with a table saw and a work bench. And your space is so limited you won’t have room for extra machines you don’t absolutely need.

Do you have the basic portable power and hand tools already? Circular saw, jig saw, drill, clamps, lots of clamps, chisels, hand plane(s), saw horses, screw drivers, tape measure, square(s) etc. Having these things and working with them will show you what larger machines you need.

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Chris_T

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#7 posted 10-20-2010 09:21 PM

The only tools I don’t have that I need/want are a planer and band saw. I have lots of power tools and hand tools. I have a piece of crap table saw, I just want to upgrade. For a jointer I got the Ridgid 6 inch that was on sale at HD last Friday for $299 with free shipping. As soon as I get it I’m going to build a base to put it on. The reason I got the jointer before a band saw and planer is I buy rough lumber from the saw mill. As you know it is impossible to work with unless you joint a face and an edge. The guy gives me a really good deals, $1.50 a board foot for walnut plus he always throws in a few boards he calls junk.

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#8 posted 10-20-2010 09:37 PM

Another thing to think about is how much money you want to spend. If you are looking to save money I would suggest searching for a good used contractor saw. I got a really nice Delta contractor saw for 200 off craigslist and other then some minor surface rust (which cleaned off well) the saw is like new. My saw is on a base with wheels and it moves easy enough as long as your not transporting it. If you just want to wheel it outdoors then a good mobile base should work just fine. If your looking for something to transport then your best bet is a job site saw.

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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#9 posted 10-20-2010 09:38 PM

I’d look at the Grizzly 17” bandsaw (I personally am not a fan of the cast iron style bandsaws).

As for table saws – if you need portability, then you are looking at JOBSITE saws – not contractor saws.

Contractor table saw actually takes MORE floor space than a hybrid/cabinet saw with 30” fence since the motor hangs out the back, and the table top is usually the same size anyways.

that said – there’s a big payoff for going portable in terms of stability and precision, although those can be overcome with the aid of fixture and jigs to some extent.

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#10 posted 10-20-2010 10:54 PM

chris, nice beaver.
I second what dbhost says. An older delta 14” bandsaw can be had for arond $300. By older I mean early 70’s or older. Even the fine cabinet saws can be made mobile, so don’t get stuck with something you are not happy with. Don’t discount the older stuff, in most cases new parts are readily available. Good advice to be had here, great place to start. Do your research.
Good luck
Randy

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#11 posted 10-21-2010 06:19 AM

Danger Will Robinson! do not buy the newer Delta 14” !

Really do not buy this saw you will be sorry. Get an older Delta or maybe a Grizzly or a Jet but not the 14” Delta current peddles.

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