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Forum topic by HorizontalMike posted 03-23-2017 03:41 PM 320 views 0 times favorited 3 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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HorizontalMike

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03-23-2017 03:41 PM

Topic tags/keywords: sargent 410 410c lever cap repair

As all know, I like my Sargent planes… a lot. Anyway, just picked another Sargent 410C, my third 410 and second “C”. This one has been well used and repaired more than once. What strikes me is the age of the repair to the lever cap. Looks like the repair itself, could be 80-100yr old but who knows… It works well, even though it appears rather odd/rough.

I am considering trying to properly repair this VBM lever cap. I have two old Stanley caps I acquired while doing similar Sargent restorations over the years. Both Stanley caps are the same size as the 410. The tang on the lower image of the three, looks like the same sized tang as the Sargent.

One side of me says to just keep that lever cap as is, as a historical oddity and find another proper cap for replacement. And then the OTHER side tells me to attempt replacing the tang, just for the experience. What I like about this particular 410C VBM is that it gives me a great comparison with my really rare 5410, it’s predecessor. Any way here are some images:

OTHER things I noticed on this 410C, is the front knob repair. Roughly shaped and no brass nut. The early owner soldered the threaded steel post onto the knob. I found out why, once I removed the knob. The plane knob base was tapped out to a 1/4-20 bolt size. I know this happens, but this was my first, in all these years. Maybe it was just more common with Stanleys… don’t know.

All said and done, I will be able to fabricate a new steel rod with 1/4-20 threads on one end and 12-24 threads on the other. And the Brass nut is also an easy fix.

Now I need to pick out what WOOD to use to make new totes and knobs out of. Don’t have any mahogany, so wondering what might be the best choice for this VBM. I have Walnut and Honduran Rosewood. The earliest 410s were Rosewood, so that might be the best choice. Any thoughts?

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."


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madts

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#1 posted 03-23-2017 04:27 PM

Mike: I would leave everything as original as possible as long as it works, or you can use it as a showpiece.
Only make a hybrid if it does not work and you need to use it.

—Madts.

-- Thor and Odin are still the greatest of Gods.

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#2 posted 03-23-2017 05:05 PM

That is an interesting Tang for sure.

-- http://timetestedtools.net - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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HorizontalMike

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#3 posted 03-23-2017 05:42 PM

Well, I gave in and picked up another VBM cap off the fleaBay, and it happens to also ONLY have the #18 stamped underside. Twenty bucks delivered, and there were three to choose from. Can’t beat that with a stick…

Anyway, the long tang is safe now.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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