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Forum topic by Jim Dawson posted 03-13-2017 08:49 PM 384 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Jim Dawson

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03-13-2017 08:49 PM

Disclaimer: I’m old but new at serious woodworking and it shows in my work quality.

A couple weeks ago I made my wife a simple napkin holder out of cherry and finished it with pre-stain conditioner then Varthane Black Cherry stain followed by 3 coats of Minwax polyurethane. It turned out great, deep dark and semi gloss.

Yesterday I built a simple wall mounted magazine rack out of maple. It turned out nice until I decided to finish it. I should have simply used the poly, but NO, I decided that I liked the previous black cherry. I followed the same steps this time and it looks awful! Not as dark and blotchy and streaked. At this point, I’m probably going to sand it and paint it.

Any advice on what I did wrong this time?


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#1 posted 03-13-2017 09:36 PM

Not enough info, how fine did you sand it?

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#2 posted 03-13-2017 09:39 PM

180 then 220


Not enough info, how fine did you sand it?

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#3 posted 03-13-2017 09:40 PM

I don’t think you made a mistake. Some wood species just don’t lend themselves to dark stain.
Maple is one example. Some have succeeded with dye and maple, but it’s one of those species I leave alone, and just spray it with clear shellac.

Not sure if you are using a commercial pre-stain conditioner, but there are home brews too. One is mixing Zinsser Bullseye Seal Coat 50/50 with denatured alcohol.

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#4 posted 03-13-2017 09:56 PM

At 220 I would think your sealed the wood pores and burnished the wood. I dont work a lot with maple. I just dye it to get the color I want and then some BLO cut with MS to pop the grain colors/differences, Then add my finish I want to use, usually oil Poly or Shellac. But most oil based stains like a sanding to only 150-180 grit. I made an Aquarium stand out of red oak, I wanted Mission color stain, it came out way lighter then I wanted, my mistake, I sanded it to 320 grit.

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#5 posted 03-13-2017 10:20 PM

Thanks everyone, I guess I’ll just paint it or build another.

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#6 posted 03-13-2017 11:08 PM

you should have used the preconditioner sometimes you need more than on coat.

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