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Forum topic by Cozmo35 posted 10-11-2010 05:04 PM 955 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Cozmo35

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10-11-2010 05:04 PM

Can anyone tell me if this is an antique or a massed produced import?

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Sheila Landry (scrollgirl)

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#1 posted 10-11-2010 05:15 PM

I can’t help you here Cozmo, but it sure looks cool! Did you buy it?

Sheila

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#2 posted 10-11-2010 05:34 PM

It must come from a distant land where sideways is the norm and upside-down is also common. ;)
Sorry, wish I could help you more. Can you provide any information from the hardware or the finish?

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#3 posted 10-11-2010 05:40 PM

My opinion—it’s mass produced, but it could be old. Plenty of furniture was mass produced throughout history.
I have a sneaky suspicion, though, that it’s mass produced and made to look old.
Never the less, I like it.

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Cozmo35

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#4 posted 10-11-2010 06:19 PM

It belongs to a friend who inherited it from her grandmother.

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#5 posted 10-11-2010 06:26 PM

There was a flood of work like this that came into the country in the 1960’s-1970’s from Indonesia and the Phillipines, and went to the upscale import retailers. Yes, it is truly hand-carved, but on an assembly line where each carver did his thing and moved on to the next. There was a fascination with all things Asian in this period, and items like this came onto the market to satify the demand. At antique shows and auctions I often used to see this stuff being passed off as a hundred years old to unsuspecting customers. In its own right, these items stand on their own as very interesting, desirable and collectible pieces today.

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CharlieM1958

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#6 posted 10-11-2010 06:56 PM

If I had to guess, I’d agree with poopiekat.

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Cozmo35

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#7 posted 10-11-2010 07:30 PM

poopiekat, Thank you for the information! I appreciate it!!

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#8 posted 10-12-2010 05:10 AM

I am positive that designs of this is not coming from Philippines. It is a monstrous variation of an elephant with human head… that could be only done in Thailand. Google it in Thailand carvings, maybe you can find similar art. Not also in Indonesian. The Philippines’ carving mostly with curve waves and more on geometrical symmetry. The wood is special Mike. It must be Teakwood. Definitely handcarved… you can see the uneven depth of the grooves and crooked portion of the edges of boarders..

-- Bert

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#9 posted 10-13-2010 02:08 AM

Awright, okay….There is of course room to differ,....BUT….being involved in the antiques trade for decades…I’ve seen all manner of hand-carved asian rarity wannabees, and this one smacks of repro, what with those very incongruous dovetails. It looks like one of those ‘antiques made while you wait’ deals from decades ago. Nowadays, the major player on the field is China, but as in ages past, whatever the public is buying, Asia comes forward to fill the market. Check this out, as an example: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/290744055/Tibetan_furniture_carving_table_/showimage.html Nowadays, you can look to China and Asia in general and find ‘genuine French Provincial’, Italian Rennaissance, or even American Federal Period knockoffs, painstakingly distressed and showing appropriate wear, fresh out of those far-east factories. These pieces pass the test to the casual observer, and are often passed off as real by dishonest or naive antique dealers. It’s not just furniture either; I was a rabid collector of Roseville Pottery of the 1920’s-1950’s and luckily quit buying before the counterfeits, in the Pine cone or Freesia patterns, flooded the market. I’ve nearly been fooled myself, except for the handpainters’ signatures that did not look right to me. So, there you go. Cozmo, I write all this just to say ‘be careful’, if you can show your item to an expert who can scrutinize it in person, you would be strongly advised to do so. What Asia makes for it’s own home use, and what it makes for the multi-billion dollar export market are two different things.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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