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03-09-2017 10:59 PM

Hi all in the US,

I’m inquiring from Australia where I have inherited a made in the USA 1933 Shelton plane that was a gift to my granny and grandpa due their hospitality to a US serviceman who was based here during the second world war.

I want to fully restore it as a memoir of that occasion and while most of the plane is still in pretty good condition the front knob screw cap has been very

badly damaged. Parts for Shelton planes are naturally non-existent here so I’ve been watching US ebay for this part with no luck.

Though complete Sheltons seem numerous and reasonably cheap in your country the US postage cost to OZ of heavy items is pretty painful so just wondering (hoping) if anyone there might have have bits and pieces of an old damaged Shelton lying around in a shed somewhere who could spare a knob screw that needs a new home. It will be very well looked after!

Kind regards,
Shane.


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#1 posted 03-09-2017 11:12 PM

Do you mean the brass barrel nut, or the threaded rod itself?

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#2 posted 03-09-2017 11:47 PM



Do you mean the brass barrel nut, or the threaded rod itself?

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The brass barrel nut. Someone’s really had a go at it.

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#3 posted 03-10-2017 12:09 AM

Have any mates with a metal lathe? Any machine shops in AU? I can’t imagine getting a replacement made would be crazy expensive.

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#4 posted 03-10-2017 12:19 AM

No shortage of machine shops and I considered that but for some unknown reason I sort of feel it must be an original Shelton part. Just posted so maybe one will turn up!

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#5 posted 03-10-2017 12:54 AM

I understand. Good luck on your hunt.

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#6 posted 03-10-2017 12:58 AM

Though I can’t say fore sure, I’d guess that any junky old plane would have a comparable nut that you could scrounge. I’ll check my Sheltons to see if indeed it is the same thread as Stanleys. Machining one would be the least favorable option!!

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#7 posted 03-10-2017 01:15 AM

Thank you so much. I have an old Stanley and From what I’ve tried the 1933 Shelton screw cap and knob hole are smaller than the Stanley and have a smaller thread, but maybe the old US ones are different.

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#8 posted 03-10-2017 01:40 AM

poopiekat in your search would you happen to have a frog for a stanley#8 early type lateral adjusting

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#9 posted 03-10-2017 01:48 AM

Okay… some bad news, sorta:

I opened up all of my Shelton patent planes…. and every one had a machine screw instead of a stud and nut.
Looks to be a 12-24 thread, according to my thread gauge. I ran a 12-24 tap into the hole and it fit nicely. A 10-24 screw was a way too sloppy fit.

My guess at this point is that somebody modified your plane at some time in it’s life. I can’t tell from here but it looks like a 1/4-20 thread on that rod, I just can’t be sure. Find a 1/4-20 bolt and try to run it into the hole.

If it doesn’t go, it’s a 12-24 thread. If you’re insisting on an original repair, I’d go for the 12/24 hardware, buy a single screw if you have to try on for size. I’m thinking somebody forced a 12-20 Stanley rod down that hole so your threads might be all buggered. BUT…..there was no barrel nut on Shelton knobs! And as I look at the screw, looks like a yellow chromate or cadmium finish anyway, not brass. Your call, dude! I’m out.

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#10 posted 03-10-2017 01:51 AM

I ain’t running no junkyard, corelz!

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#11 posted 03-10-2017 02:49 AM

I been searching high and low for one. Have seen a couple of pics of your collection thought you might of been able to help me out

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#12 posted 03-10-2017 02:52 AM



I been searching high and low for one. Have seen a couple of pics of your collection thought you might of been able to help me out

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Go to Ebay, look up nhplaneparts, Eric MIGHT have the frog you are looking for.

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#13 posted 03-10-2017 03:08 AM

Tried him and a few other sellers on ebay

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#14 posted 03-10-2017 03:31 AM

This thread is about Shelton planes, corelz. I’m only here to try to help him.

Try a post in the swap and trade forum, maybe? I don’t sell planes or parts.

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#15 posted 03-10-2017 06:47 AM

Hey poopiekat, you’ve gone to a lot of trouble to help me out and I really appreciate it. Huge thanks!

I trust your expertise that the plane may have been tampered with but have to say if that’s so someone has sure gone to great extremes. The attached pics show that:
1. Apart from their different lengths the knob and tote screw are exactly the same in form and thread.
2. I checked the base hole threads with a magnifying glass and they are all good, but more notably they are much smaller than the Stanley screw thread. if someone had messed around with the plane you’d reckon the holes

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would be tapped out bigger and not as small as they are.
3. The barrel nuts slide into the knob hole and tote hole so perfectly as though they were intended to be there and sit at the perfect depth.

Sadly everything looks like it was meant to be so now I’m just one confused puppy. Oh well.

Thanks again poopiekat!

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