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Forum topic by newbiewoodworker posted 10-07-2010 12:24 AM 1703 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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newbiewoodworker

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10-07-2010 12:24 AM

Today, I come home, and what did I see: Someone decided to steal my radio so they could listen to the “Important Football News”... Then when I got bent out of shape, they act like they did nothing wrong.

I am taping up later a big sign: I dont touch your stuff dont touch mine…

But does/has this happen(ed) to anyone else? If so, what, and how did you react?

-- "Ah, So your not really a newbie, but a I betterbie."


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dq2

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#1 posted 10-07-2010 01:43 AM

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-- - DQ in Phoenix -

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JJohnston

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#2 posted 10-07-2010 02:24 AM

Just today, in fact. We have a conference room in the office, with a calendar posted to reserve it. I had it reserved for 8:30 today; when I got there (at 8:30), another guy had his squad in there. Never even bothered to check the reservation calendar; why would he, after all? This is the guy who claims to be politically conservative, and to respect law and order; I guess it’s only his order he’s talking about. I can only imagine how accomodating he would have been if the roles were reversed.

-- "A man may conduct himself well in both adversity and good fortune, but if you want to test his character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln

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Dark_Lightning

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#3 posted 10-07-2010 02:55 AM

By “steal”, what do you mean? Did they take it when you weren’t looking, and leave for points unknown? Or did they just go outside to listen? Personally, I expect people to keep their grubby mitts off my stuff, and not take it without permission. Is it a renter or a family member? Family rips you off the worst. Or was it a “friend” who thinks you can sport him a radio? Needs more details…

-- Random Orbital Nailer

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Gregn

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#4 posted 10-07-2010 05:09 AM

Is Someone and They related to Nobody and Notme that also live at your house? I sense this is a case of sibling rivalry and that a brother invades your space and things. Light a M80 and throw it under his bed to give him one of those loving awakenings he so deserves. Cause you know a sign is not going to make him stay out of your stuff. LOL
Sorry I don’t have that problem with my shop. Now if I could keep my wife out of my kitchen I’d be on easy street.

-- I don't make mistakes, I have great learning lessons, Greg

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Steven H

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#5 posted 10-07-2010 05:49 AM

It is one of those reason you should close or lock the shop door. If it’s a family member, you got a problem.

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NathanAllen

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#6 posted 10-07-2010 04:17 PM

In my opinion people matter more than things, so I try not to get bent out of shape about little things. Stealing implies they meant to keep it. If they only intended to borrow it then a better reaction might be to tell them that you expect to be asked before something is removed from your space and if not around then they should leave a note explaining where they are with it and when they will return it.

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rustfever

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#7 posted 10-07-2010 04:49 PM

I am in the business. A general contractor. The business sprang from my early enjoyment of woodworking. When I opened the ‘business doors’, my tools came along with me.

Soon there were employees. One person managed to burn up the motor on my vintage 8” Delta RAS, not once, but twice. Then the lathe tools disapeared (only the good ones). Soon the table saw had a crack cast iron table top. I found my tool belt on one of the new hires.

Within a couple of years, almost every tool was broken, worn out, or missing. Of course the employees then claimed all of my tools were ‘Junk’.

So, when I started back into wood working, I sectioned a corner of the shop, painted a line on the floor, put up signs, and announced to all that my area was ‘Mine, not yours, and off limits’. Several month later, I found my new chop saw on a job site. I aked the foreman ‘Why?” He said he needed it. I fired him on the spot.

Since then, several others have left my employeement for the same reasons. I have been taken to the Labor Commissioner twice, accused of ‘wrongfull termination’. Both time I brought to the hearing, pictures of the line on the floor, the signs placed around my tools, and the employment document signed by the employee informing him of the consequences of his actions. Both times the Labor Commissioner ruled in my favor. Sent a very big message to my employees.

I now have very little problem.

-- Rustfever, Central California

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GaryL

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#8 posted 10-07-2010 04:57 PM

Rustfever, I like your thinking. I know the headaches of employees that don’t care. Been through my fair share. I simplified and now it’s just me and 1 helper. I can now keep quality up and tool abuse down. I don’t know how many times I have told guys using the chop saw that “it’s a saw, not an axe!”. One guy hammered a pc so hard it twisted the blade over 3/4 of in. and cut part of the fence off and scored up the inside of the guard.

-- Gary; Marysville, MI...Involve your children in your projects as much as possible, the return is priceless.

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rance

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#9 posted 10-07-2010 05:04 PM

I agree with Rustfever!!! I prefer to treat adults like adults. :)

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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Domer

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#10 posted 10-07-2010 06:02 PM

I had a neighbor that we did a lot of projects together.

I had more tools than he did but he had a lot more knowledge than I did. He used to come borrow tools from me but seldom brought them back. I knew where they were and often had to walk a half a block to get them back. Often times I would be annoyed but never brought it up to him as he was a really good friend.

We moved a few years ago and no one borrows my tools any more except my children who are even worse at bringing them back.

I miss my friend borrowing my tools.

Domer

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newbiewoodworker

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#11 posted 10-07-2010 08:44 PM

I should have rephrased that as: Borrowed w/o permission…

Believe me… I would fire them if I could… but they are my family…

Also.. I would do the M-80 thing… but its my grandmother and my father… I would probably give atleast one a heart attack…

I do keep the door closed.. but I doubt my father would be too happy if I put a pad lock on a portion of his house…. I even had a sign that I put up after my grandfather decided to place all sorts of garbage in my shop.. but I tore it down when I power washed the garage, before putting everything back, since people stopped… I guess its back to sign time…

-- "Ah, So your not really a newbie, but a I betterbie."

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reggiek

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#12 posted 10-07-2010 09:29 PM

I always have folks that want to borrow things. I tell them if it is one of my shop tools, then give me the piece and I will cut/work it…I don’t want someone getting hurt or ruining one of my cherished tools.

I hate loaning tools as the borrower never seems to take care of the borrowed item….If someone asks me I tell them that I am very anal about my tools….do not return to me without returning it to the shape it was in when borrowed….do not return broken….and do not abuse it (or else replace it).....there are very few that want to borrow tools after that discussion…and I like it that way….when I borrow something, I try to return it in better shape then I borrowed it….I will typically clean it out…oil it…. lube all the parts that need it….and sharpen anything that needs that…..why treat anything any different then you would treat your own?

My family knows better then to take something without asking first….I am not stingy… I just like my stuff in good repair and working right…and I keep them that way (misused or broken stuff is very dangerous also – why risk the chance of being injured).

-- Woodworking.....My small slice of heaven!

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Knothead62

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#13 posted 10-07-2010 09:42 PM

I have come upon a solution to the employee problem. Have a business that doesn’t require employees! I did and loved it! FYI, I had a sales business and now build custom fishing rods. One employee- me!
My wife and kids never could figure out why I got upset when they would take my tools and not put them back where they were kept. I have spent untold hours on a 15 minute project and spent an hour trying to find the tools I needed.

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