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Don W

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03-07-2017 12:41 AM

I have undertaken a project which will require multiple house brand or secondary line #4 size hand planes. These need to be Bailey type cast iron planes with removable cast iron frogs. There are several ways I can get the planes. They should be as close to original as possible. We do not want tuned planes.

I can purchase them, but buying a $10-$15 plane and paying $15 shipping doesn’t work financially, so if you have several you’d like to sell, which will cut down on shipping, I would be interested, or if you know anyone who may, let me know.

The results from this project will wind up in some kind of book. I’m not at all sure what that will look like yet, but the planes will be documented with pictures. If you’d like, I can borrow the plane(s) It will be marked in the “book” “From the Collection of Plane Owner”. Then as part of that you can add a web site or business name if it applies, or it can just be your name in a book as something to show the grand kids. Its up to you.

Then if you would like the planes back (we realize some are valuable and some are not) we’d ask you pay the return shipping. With the plane(s) will be a document sheet that was entered into the book, and the plane marked with the image number and other pertinent data.

Any planes that you don’t wish to have returned will be auctioned off after the project has been completed with 100% of its proceeds going to a charity related to woodworking or similar related program

PM me if you’d like to participate or have the required planes you’d like to sell.

-- http://timetestedtools.net - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.


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Mark Kornell

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#1 posted 03-07-2017 01:02 AM

Don, this sounds like a really cool project. I don’t have any planes to contribute, but I’m going to be interested in the book when it comes out. What time frame are you projecting?

-- Mark Kornell, Kornell Wood Design

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#2 posted 03-07-2017 01:23 AM

I’m not sure yet Mark. I’ll let you know.

-- http://timetestedtools.net - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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#3 posted 03-07-2017 01:37 AM

Have a few boxes of planes I have to sort out. Like a wards master is in the grouping?

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#4 posted 03-07-2017 02:46 AM

Do they have to be Stanley? I pretty sure I have a few laying around, not going to check now, 40mph wind and it’s snowing! Actualy its snowing sideways, and with wind no snow on the ground. LOL

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#5 posted 03-07-2017 03:16 AM

“Then if you would like the planes back (we realize some are valuable and some are not) we’d ask you pay the return shipping.”
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REALLY? I have to pay to get back my tools that you borrowed to write your book? How cheap is that ?? Sorry, but that seems a little incongruous to me.

-- ajh

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onoitsmatt

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#6 posted 03-07-2017 03:18 AM

^^^^don’t send him any then.

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#7 posted 03-07-2017 03:28 AM

Interesting. Very.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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Don W

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#8 posted 03-07-2017 12:10 PM



Have a few boxes of planes I have to sort out. Like a wards master is in the grouping?

- corelz125

Yes, I’ll need a couple of those

-- http://timetestedtools.net - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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Don W

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#9 posted 03-07-2017 12:11 PM



Do they have to be Stanley? I pretty sure I have a few laying around, not going to check now, 40mph wind and it s snowing! Actualy its snowing sideways, and with wind no snow on the ground. LOL

- NDakota

No they definitely don’t have to be Stanley.

-- http://timetestedtools.net - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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Don W

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#10 posted 03-07-2017 12:18 PM



“Then if you would like the planes back (we realize some are valuable and some are not) we’d ask you pay the return shipping.”
_

REALLY? I have to pay to get back my tools that you borrowed to write your book? How cheap is that ?? Sorry, but that seems a little incongruous to me.

- wood2woodknot

Then you don’t understand what having a plane that was documented in a published book means to the value of that plane, and there is no harm in not participating.

-- http://timetestedtools.net - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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HorizontalMike

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#11 posted 03-07-2017 01:04 PM

Don,
If you could be more specific on what you are trying to accomplish, many folks might be able to do there own imaging and measuring in order to help you, if you could/would delineate precisely:

  • Exactly what views you want (assembled, at 45 and 90-degrees, overhead, etc…
  • Grenade view specifics (what and where, separately or together, etc.)
  • Known information (from owner, others, literature, Type…, etc.)
  • Weight of (base, frog, chipper, etc.)
  • Refinished or OEM…
  • And I am sure you might have other information to add to this list…

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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Don W

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#12 posted 03-07-2017 01:09 PM

That wouldn’t work for this project Mike, but they should be OEM. I’ll update the OP for that info.

-- http://timetestedtools.net - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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HorizontalMike

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#13 posted 03-07-2017 01:27 PM



That wouldn t work for this project Mike, but they should be OEM. I ll update the OP for that info.
- Don W

I understand, however, just how does one know if a 60yr old repair/refinish on a 120yr old plane is or is not OEM finish?

I can see matching the hard parts and type of wood, etc., but “japanning” is a whole new can of worms. I say this because of one Sargent 424 Type 2 that I have, that was re-japanned with asphaltum and looks great. It was done by a +80-something year-old that has been doing this for +60yr. ALL parts match the Type (wood, “dot”, etc).

FWIW, one cannot exactly expect to find their dream 1953 corvette with the OEM motor oil and OEM gas in the tank… Just a thought… After all, these are tools of the trade, not a Barbie Doll in the OEM Box collectible.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#14 posted 03-07-2017 01:56 PM

I would say that the one you have is the outlier Mike.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#15 posted 03-07-2017 04:16 PM

A friend of mine was telling me that in the old muscle car world there are people who make spark plug wires with old dates on them. That is, you can buy brand new spark plug wires that are stamped with 1967 just like factory.

Planes that have been used are not likely to have such funny biz… but still.

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