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10-05-2010 03:40 AM

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Greetings,

My wife showed me this picture out of her Martha Stewart magazine. http://www.marthastewart.com/photogallery/marthas-50-top-kitchen-tips#slide_2
I have never seen this type of shelf support. It is kind of interesting. Anyone know how is it typically made?

Just curious…..

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#1 posted 10-05-2010 03:50 AM

Those are interesting. Though they look like dust, dirt collectors. I’m thinking, turn it over and the shelves will still stay in place.

As far as making? I don’t know, someone will. My best guess would be a router jig setup.

-- mtnwild (Jack), It's not what you see, it's how you see it.

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#2 posted 10-05-2010 04:23 AM

That looks neat. I think you could do that with a table saw and make two passes with different angles for each notch.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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#3 posted 10-05-2010 04:27 AM

How funny, I was thinking the same thing before I read the previous post. THOSE LOOK LIKE DUST COLLECTORS. Wow. And the sanding involved wow.

-- I'd like to believe Murphy's Law haunts my woodshop, because if it's Karma it would mean I had something to do with it. - K.R.

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#4 posted 10-05-2010 04:34 AM

Looked again and I’ll bet those are cut from stock, glued in place and painted. Not cut like that, built like that.

-- mtnwild (Jack), It's not what you see, it's how you see it.

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#5 posted 10-05-2010 05:07 AM

Yea they would be a dusting nightmare, but they look neat.

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2

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#6 posted 10-05-2010 05:20 AM

There must be a different name for them. She calls them Bird’s Beak, but if you Google that term, it only points to that article.

The interesting twist and head scratcher is if it is indeed an ‘old carpentry style’ (Which I believe), then we need to think in old style methods. hmmm…

Jack, I wondered that too, but I’m having a hard time visualizing the process without seeing a LOT of sanding, filling and prep to give it the clean sharp lines.

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#7 posted 10-05-2010 06:59 AM

I agree with them being collectors of dust and grime. They could be cut with a dado blade on the table saw or the radial arm saw. Thinking of old style ways, I would imagine that they had a hand plane with an angled blade may have been used at one time. Just my guess.

-- I don't make mistakes, I have great learning lessons, Greg

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#8 posted 10-05-2010 07:08 AM

I think a CNC router would make this very easy to do. It can be run as a climb cut operation with no tear out.

-- Oldworld, Fair Oaks, Ca

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#9 posted 10-06-2010 03:24 PM

I’d use a stacked dado on a RAS

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#10 posted 10-06-2010 03:44 PM

The shelves sure don’t look like they are bearing on much, I would think a shelf loaded too much might bow and crash down.

Wouldn’t be my choice.

-- Randy "You are judged as much by the questions you ask as the answers you give..."

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#11 posted 10-25-2010 04:18 AM

I’m sure that if these are old technology there is an elegant answer to how they are made. Anyone figure out what it is because I’d kinda like to take a stab at it with hand tools only?

-- Mike, Western New York

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#12 posted 12-16-2012 09:03 PM

Found this: “Bird’s Mouth Shelf Supports.” Doesn’t have the obvious geometric pattern, but I find it more elegant.
http://www.stephanwoodworking.com/BirdsMouthShelfSupports.htm

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#13 posted 12-16-2012 09:16 PM

Here’s another good photographic reference (German):
http://www.die-zahnleiste.de/bilder.html

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#14 posted 12-16-2012 10:40 PM

Crazy labor to make those perfect like that. She
can afford it.

There is an old way of doing it sort of like that
but it’s more like two sets of saw teeth on each
wall of the cabinet and you put a board with a
matching end in it.

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#15 posted 12-16-2012 11:06 PM

She can afford it because she has stolen your money. That is the reason she had to live in the big house. Reackon she learned about those there??

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