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Hopdevil

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1418 days ago

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Greetings,

My wife showed me this picture out of her Martha Stewart magazine. http://www.marthastewart.com/photogallery/marthas-50-top-kitchen-tips#slide_2
I have never seen this type of shelf support. It is kind of interesting. Anyone know how is it typically made?

Just curious…..

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mtnwild

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#1 posted 1418 days ago

Those are interesting. Though they look like dust, dirt collectors. I’m thinking, turn it over and the shelves will still stay in place.

As far as making? I don’t know, someone will. My best guess would be a router jig setup.

-- mtnwild (Jack), It's not what you see, it's how you see it.

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#2 posted 1418 days ago

That looks neat. I think you could do that with a table saw and make two passes with different angles for each notch.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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#3 posted 1418 days ago

How funny, I was thinking the same thing before I read the previous post. THOSE LOOK LIKE DUST COLLECTORS. Wow. And the sanding involved wow.

-- I'd like to believe Murphy's Law haunts my woodshop, because if it's Karma it would mean I had something to do with it. - K.R.

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#4 posted 1418 days ago

Looked again and I’ll bet those are cut from stock, glued in place and painted. Not cut like that, built like that.

-- mtnwild (Jack), It's not what you see, it's how you see it.

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Mark Shymanski

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#5 posted 1417 days ago

Yea they would be a dusting nightmare, but they look neat.

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2

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Hopdevil

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#6 posted 1417 days ago

There must be a different name for them. She calls them Bird’s Beak, but if you Google that term, it only points to that article.

The interesting twist and head scratcher is if it is indeed an ‘old carpentry style’ (Which I believe), then we need to think in old style methods. hmmm…

Jack, I wondered that too, but I’m having a hard time visualizing the process without seeing a LOT of sanding, filling and prep to give it the clean sharp lines.

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Gregn

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#7 posted 1417 days ago

I agree with them being collectors of dust and grime. They could be cut with a dado blade on the table saw or the radial arm saw. Thinking of old style ways, I would imagine that they had a hand plane with an angled blade may have been used at one time. Just my guess.

-- I don't make mistakes, I have great learning lessons, Greg

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#8 posted 1417 days ago

I think a CNC router would make this very easy to do. It can be run as a climb cut operation with no tear out.

-- Oldworld, Fair Oaks, Ca

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#9 posted 1416 days ago

I’d use a stacked dado on a RAS

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#10 posted 1416 days ago

The shelves sure don’t look like they are bearing on much, I would think a shelf loaded too much might bow and crash down.

Wouldn’t be my choice.

-- Randy "You are judged as much by the questions you ask as the answers you give..."

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mpmitche

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#11 posted 1398 days ago

I’m sure that if these are old technology there is an elegant answer to how they are made. Anyone figure out what it is because I’d kinda like to take a stab at it with hand tools only?

-- Mike, Western New York

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#12 posted 614 days ago

Found this: “Bird’s Mouth Shelf Supports.” Doesn’t have the obvious geometric pattern, but I find it more elegant.
http://www.stephanwoodworking.com/BirdsMouthShelfSupports.htm

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GVnana

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#13 posted 614 days ago

Here’s another good photographic reference (German):
http://www.die-zahnleiste.de/bilder.html

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Loren

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#14 posted 614 days ago

Crazy labor to make those perfect like that. She
can afford it.

There is an old way of doing it sort of like that
but it’s more like two sets of saw teeth on each
wall of the cabinet and you put a board with a
matching end in it.

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Grandpa

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#15 posted 614 days ago

She can afford it because she has stolen your money. That is the reason she had to live in the big house. Reackon she learned about those there??

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