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TungOil

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03-03-2017 01:36 PM

My next few projects are going to require a lot of angled, mortised joinery. Too much to cut by hand. I’m contemplating either the JDS multi-router or a Domino DF 500. Neither is inexpensive, so I’m looking for some opinions from those that have used either (or both). What are the pros and cons?

Thanks!

-- The optimist says "the glass is half full". The pessimist says "the glass is half empty". The engineer says "the glass is twice as big as it needs to be"


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#1 posted 03-03-2017 01:47 PM

i don’t own one but have used the domino and can say it is convenient and fast. i was looking at the domino and pantorrouter but i was leaning toward the domino for portability.

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#2 posted 03-03-2017 02:17 PM

For about $1000-1500 less than the Multi-router you might consider making or buying a Matthias Wandel Pantorouter. It actually looks simpler to operate since it has only one lever instead of 3, though I have used neither.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#3 posted 03-03-2017 02:38 PM

I have the Domino 700, it does everything I need to do, and portable. I have not used the multi- router. The Domino is a great fast tool.

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#4 posted 03-03-2017 03:01 PM

I have both and feel the Domino is more versatile, I feel a Multi-router can do some things a Domino can’t but as others have said you can make a shop made version of your own like I did before I bought a real multi-router.

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#5 posted 03-03-2017 03:38 PM

I would be cautious about using the domino
or any loose tenon in certain chair-making
applications do to concern about the amount
of wood removed from thin pieces of wood
that need to take a lot of strain, but aside from
that exception the domino seems easier to
set up.

I have a Maffel duo unit which is like a domino
that drills 2 dowel holes on 32mm centers
and like it a lot, though a lot of heat is generated
in plunging into hardwoods. I also have a
Wirth machine, which is similar to a multi-router.
It takes quite a lot more fussing to set up
so it’s really best suited to cutting batches
of tenons and all in one setup.

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#6 posted 03-03-2017 04:05 PM

Jim-

since you have used both, do you feel there is a difference in the strength, quality or alignment of the joints produced with the two machines? Intuitively the multi-router seems like it would produce a stronger, more accurate joints.

The pantarouter is an option for sure, but it looks like a toy compared to the multi-router. I’d be interested to hear from someone that has bought the metal version on how sturdy it is. Building one would be fun, but not really an option right now, I have too much on my plate and I need to get some furniture built!

-- The optimist says "the glass is half full". The pessimist says "the glass is half empty". The engineer says "the glass is twice as big as it needs to be"

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#7 posted 03-03-2017 04:20 PM

Watch Matthias Wandel’s videos. He uses his homemade pantorouter all the time and he also does a video demo of the metal one.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#8 posted 03-03-2017 05:02 PM

Tung
I feel that both are equally strong joints ,the Domino you can buy the different sizes of dominos and they are grooved to provide glue relief the Multi router I’ve always made my own loose tenons but it would not be impossible to make your own for the domino also. They are both quality machines the Multi-router can produce larger and deeper mortises than the standard Domino and depending on the accessories your purchaseit could clamp somthings easier say for the end of longer heavier board you want to do a mortise the end(I have the pneumatic clamps. I would say accuracy has to do with the proper set up (the nut behind the wheel) I find I use the domino more because of it’s quick set up and ease of use.The multi-router takes up a lot of floor space if you’re limited on floor space plus it cost 3 times as much plus accessories but will do more than just mortises. My shop built muti-router did mortises just as well as my JDS Multi router and was not pretty to look at(still have it) the hardware for it cost about $760 plus the wood and router.
I hope this helps
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#9 posted 03-03-2017 08:25 PM

I’m giving the pantorouter a second look. I thought it did not have a tilting table when I looked at it about a year ago but I see that it does indeed tilt. So I think this tool is a contender as well. Does anyone have experience with it?

-- The optimist says "the glass is half full". The pessimist says "the glass is half empty". The engineer says "the glass is twice as big as it needs to be"

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#10 posted 03-03-2017 08:52 PM

Don’t have the Multirouter, seemed to pricey and annoying. I have the DF500 and am very happy with it.

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#11 posted 03-03-2017 10:41 PM



I m giving the pantorouter a second look. I thought it did not have a tilting table when I looked at it about a year ago but I see that it does indeed tilt. So I think this tool is a contender as well. Does anyone have experience with it?

- TungOil

It sounds like your timing may be critical so make sure that it is not going to take too long to get it delivered. If I recall, the guy that makes them is in Japan and I am not sure how long it takes to ship it here.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#12 posted 03-03-2017 11:09 PM

You can’t beat this price Nathan $18 plus material

http://woodgears.ca/pantorouter/plans/

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#13 posted 03-03-2017 11:18 PM

I was emailing with the US distributor (Mac Sheldon) earlier today on just that question, he can ship Monday from Portland. I could have it by the end of the week. $1850 Fully loaded with all of the templates, dust collection (a glaring fault of the multi-router) a PC 890 router, bits, clamps, etc. I’m tempted…..

-- The optimist says "the glass is half full". The pessimist says "the glass is half empty". The engineer says "the glass is twice as big as it needs to be"

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#14 posted 03-04-2017 12:07 AM

I used to love my Multirouter as it does lots of tasks. The issue is that over the years I acquired tools that did most of the functions quicker, easier and were more flexible and finally sold it last year. For loose tenons I much prefer the Domino (I have the 500 and 700) as they are just as accurate but much quicker to use except in maybe the rare case of a large production type run. The only capability that I may miss on the future is the round tenon option otherwise for loose tenons the Domino is already back in the Systainer by the time I would have the Multirouter setup. The Multirouter is a well made, well thought out machine but as with most multi-function tools there are single use tools that d each job if not better at least more efficiently and often have increased capacity or flexibility within that one general function.

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#15 posted 03-04-2017 12:52 AM

I had a early Domino and never could get it to register properly so sold it. Went with the Jessem 8350 and love it.

-- Bill eastern Washington Home of beloved ZAGS

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