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Forum topic by bent posted 10-04-2010 02:43 PM 2078 views 1 time favorited 18 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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10-04-2010 02:43 PM

every fall, there’s a historical reenactment just outside our town. it’s based on a french trading post/fort that was on the wabash river during the 1700’s. it’s called “feast of the hunter’s moon”, and represents a gathering of traders. two of my friends (dan and scott) are woodturners and put on a demo each year with their great wheel lathe. i volunteered to start helping them out. the demo is geared towards kids, they get to spin the flywheel while we turn a small toy for them to keep. there’s about 20 designs they can choose from. i think the most popular this year was the football and goblet. the toys are really nothing too fancy, but the kids LOVE them! the lathe is pretty big attraction, it’s been going out to the reenactment for almost 40 years now. it’s cool to see parents bringing their kids and they tell us that they remember turning the wheel when they were kids. the line to turn the wheel wraps all the way around our booth and usually takes over an hour. it’s amazing, none of the kids complain, they’re just so excited to get their turn to make a toy.

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the first 3 photos are from friday, when it’s just school field trips. we set up and give a presentation to the classes before the feast actually starts on saturday. this is dan giving a speech about what the lathe does, and what it’s used for.

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right after we set up the lathe, scott is making some test cuts.

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during the actual event, here we are in action


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#1 posted 10-04-2010 02:57 PM

That’s a really nice set up and I’m sure ya’ll had fun.

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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#2 posted 10-04-2010 03:13 PM

Cool project. Any reason you have the wheel so far from the lathe?

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#3 posted 10-04-2010 03:35 PM

Very nice. Thanks for sharing this. Looks like great fun.

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#4 posted 10-04-2010 03:53 PM

Hey Bent. That looks like a fun! I didn’t make it to the Feast this year but someday I will make it to a local club meeting. I just started using the lathe I bought last year and I’m seeing the possibilities. Take care.

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#5 posted 10-04-2010 06:54 PM

rance – i’m not sure why the drive rope is the length that it is. the lathe was built about 40 yrs ago by 2 twins that are shop teachers. they’re brilliant guys, i assume they had a valid reason in it’s design, as it works well.

john – you should come on out to the meetings john, they’re pretty fun and informative. this month is a presentation by a professor of forestry at purdue that also runs his own mill. next month is pen turning, and a presentation by me on glazing windows in woodwork (due to the bookcase i have posted on here).

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#6 posted 10-04-2010 08:23 PM

Looks dangerous for kids to play with… no offence.. but imagine getting your arm caught in one of the spokes while its rotating at several hundred RPMs…. you wouldnt have an arm any more…

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#7 posted 10-04-2010 08:51 PM

”Looks dangerous for kids to play with… no offence.. but imagine getting your arm caught in one of the spokes while its rotating at several hundred RPMs…. you wouldnt have an arm any more…”

I imagine there isn’t a child on this planet that can turn that wheel at several hundred RPMs…no offence… but I also imagine you are a ton of fun at parties…you wouldn’t want anyone to enjoy themselves any more…after 40 years and a few generations of having fun.

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#8 posted 10-04-2010 09:01 PM

bent,
That looks like a lot of fun, good on you and your friends for keeping the tradition alive.
I hope you guys can continue to do this for many years and even train a new generation to take up the work.

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#9 posted 10-04-2010 09:05 PM

Dave: With all due respect, its a fly wheel. Every turn builds upon the previous one, so in effect, you can get it going at higher RPMS than you could other wise…

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#10 posted 10-04-2010 09:07 PM

Do you have a picture of the 20 choices of toys?

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#11 posted 10-04-2010 09:40 PM

yes, the flywheel builds on it’s own momentum, but it doesn’t get nearly that fast under kid power. i did a quick count just out of curiousity while it was turning. it gets about 30-50 rpm. that would be enough to hurt pretty good, but i don’t think we’d see arm removal. it’s barely enough to power the lathe to cut pine. between having it roped off, parental supervision, a little bit of common sense, it’s been a safe operation. however, we did have a small shoving fight yesterday over who’s turn it was.

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#12 posted 10-04-2010 09:45 PM

sorry jjohnston, i didn’t get a chance to get a picture of all the toys. we stayed pretty busy. i can remember that there’s a football, tree, goblet, apple, pear, candle, golf ball/tee, barrel, pawn, bottle, and a ice cream cone. nothing too fancy, but the kids like it.

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#13 posted 10-04-2010 09:46 PM

I think the distance away is needed for operation. At that length the belt has enough weight to create its own tension as a result of the sag. If the wheel were close, the belt would not have enough weight, so you would have to make it tighter and rely on actual tension to keep it tight.

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#14 posted 10-04-2010 09:57 PM

”Dave: With all due respect, its a fly wheel. Every turn builds upon the previous one, so in effect, you can get it going at higher RPMS than you could other wise…”

newbie: That is understandable , but wrong.
With all due respect, that wheel will can turn no faster than the person who is operating the crank can turn it.
If it were dangerous I would imagine that in the 40 years it has been operating that there has to have been at least one distracted child( imagine that, a child not paying attention) who’s arm was removed, or rendered useless for life, but that hasn’t happened. Considering that the lathe is still being invited back to the Fair, I would imagine that there hasn’t been a single child injured in any way turning that crank. If it were not so the Fair would have been sued out of business by some over protective mother long ago.

This was great thread about a great activity for children until you and I took a dump on it.
I suggest that any further conversation between us be taken to PM and let everyone enjoy the festivities.

EDIT to add;

Sorry for the detour/highjack, we now return you to your regular programing.

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#15 posted 10-04-2010 10:07 PM

”I think the distance away is needed for operation. At that length the belt has enough weight to create its own tension as a result of the sag. If the wheel were close, the belt would not have enough weight, so you would have to make it tighter and rely on actual tension to keep it tight.”

swirt, I think you are right about that, but I wonder what the drive rope is made of, leather, hemp?

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