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Forum topic by Cullcutter posted 10-04-2010 05:38 AM 1014 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Cullcutter

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10-04-2010 05:38 AM

First of all, I appreciate all of the comments on the Ridgid table saw. I am pretty confident that I went the right direction.

Now, what is next? Vague, I get it. I have basic carpentry tools, but not much in the way of furniture, which is my new direction. I am trying to decide between shape or a router and table combo? This seem like a logical step or am I skipping steps? Thanks guys.

-- I started working with wood because of the biscuits.


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KayBee

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#1 posted 10-04-2010 06:48 AM

Sounds like a good next step to me. If you get a router, you can use it in and out of a router table. A router with a good bits and edge guide will cover a lot of ground. It’ll do joints and edge treatments. Then with a table you can do even more and safer. Shapers cost more for tooling and for hobbyists aren’t as versatile.

-- Karen - a little bit of stupid goes a long way

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#2 posted 10-04-2010 02:19 PM

if you have the money and space…great….but for me, I have no need for a shaper…my router does everything I need it to do and it doesn’t take up anymore room…
Money is also a key factor…shapers and bits are twice as much than routers.
Just my observations…in the end it comes down to what you think.
I am glad you got the Ridgid saw…I have had mine for a year and love it to death…my Uncle a pro furniture maker, after using my saw a few times tried to buy one for his shop…they were all sold out.

-- Semper Fi, Randy Sr.

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newbiewoodworker

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#3 posted 10-04-2010 09:13 PM

I would go Router+table… Shapers are extremely dangerous… They also arent as versitile as a router. You can route plunge dados with a router… do that with a shaper, and it will go flying into next month…

Also, shapers are mighty expensive… Router: Top of the line Festool: $720… Shaper: Top of the line PM: $8500… and its 3phase…

-- "Ah, So your not really a newbie, but a I betterbie."

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Cullcutter

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#4 posted 10-04-2010 09:33 PM

Yeah, I was thinking more in the 300 to 400 range total. Any ideas in that ball park?

-- I started working with wood because of the biscuits.

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PurpLev

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#5 posted 10-04-2010 09:41 PM

really depends on what you’ll be using it for. if it’s for dadoes and inlays etc- a router would be more suitable. if it’s for edge shaping, and raised panel, and rail and stile frames and doors – a shaper will run cooler for a long long time without complaining and without screaming.

Edit: I’ll add to that – I don’t have a “what’s next purchase list”, nor do I find it very useful. there are too many woodworking tools out there, mostly tools that I have no use for. I get my tools based on need for current project – OR, if I had a need for them in previous project, and just happen to find a great deal.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#6 posted 10-04-2010 10:14 PM

I’d second, or maybe 5th, a Router and a table, it’s a fairly core tool in my opinion.

Other large purchases will be based on your interests, if you can get a pile of cheap rough lumber then a jointer and planer make sense. If you’re looking at curved forms/resawing then a band saw.

Then again, reliable/safe dust collection and a good workbench are always last on the lists but first in need.

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Cullcutter

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#7 posted 10-04-2010 10:30 PM

Well, actually….. I have a knack for work benches and have built 2. Dust collection is next, after the router that is.

-- I started working with wood because of the biscuits.

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newbiewoodworker

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#8 posted 10-05-2010 12:37 AM

I wish you good luck finding a shaper under 1k… The fence for the Delta is $500 alone… You might try Harbour Freight?

-- "Ah, So your not really a newbie, but a I betterbie."

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Cullcutter

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#9 posted 10-05-2010 05:28 AM

I was actually talking about a router and table. However, I did find a few nice shapers, or so I think at least. http://www.grizzly.com/products/1-1-2-HP-Shaper/G1035
http://www.grizzly.com/products/3-4-HP-Shaper/G0510Z

I don’t know much about grizzly, but it seems like quality.

-- I started working with wood because of the biscuits.

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Cullcutter

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#10 posted 10-05-2010 05:40 AM

That is a good editing note Lev. I am still trying to get what I would consider the basic tools. I helped my uncle build cabinets and houses for a while, but I have not done any wood working for 12 years. I am learning again. Granted, I don’t see the need for a 14” powermatic cabby and a 22” planer, but I felt some kind of router or shaper was needed. Besides, I can also justify it by rolling some edges or throwing a bullnose on a bench.

-- I started working with wood because of the biscuits.

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