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Forum topic by Flacer posted 03-02-2017 02:45 PM 1691 views 0 times favorited 19 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Flacer

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03-02-2017 02:45 PM

Hi new here and looking for some advice/help on picking out a new jointer.

I’m a USA made nut and really do try to buy everything I can that’s USA made and I am one of those people who will spend the extra money just cause it is made in the USA least within reason lol. That said options for new jointers made in USA seem to be zero unless you go over 15k and that gets above the within reason limit.

I’ve looked on here several times and have read alot of reviews and YouTube videos and came to the conclusion I want a 8in jointer and am eye balling the Laguna MJOIN8012-0130 and the Baileigh IJ-883p. Not that I’m not open to other options but these 2 seem to be somewhat higher quality and major plus the laguna says it has an amarican made leesons motor option while the sales rep for Baileigh says theres has a USA made motor as well ( can anyone with Baileigh tools confirm this or say what brand motors they have).

With that in mind does anyone have any real world experience with either of these 2 machines?? Or does anyone have any other brand with higher quality or amarican made options I’ve missed?? I’ve looked at grizzly, jet, powermatic, Oliver, and general pretty closely as well.


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bonesbr549

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#1 posted 03-02-2017 03:42 PM

First welcome to the site. And sadly as you have mentioned made it America is hard to find these days. While I don’t have specific knowledge on those brands, I’d look at finding an old piece of American iron. Searchtempest.com will help. If you don’t want to do that, then also look at Grizzly. I’ve had my 12” ten years + and its been just rock solid. Also, powermatic puts out a 10% sale some time in the spring usually every year. I know I’m waiting for that for a planer.

Good luck on the quest and post a reivew of what ever you get. We all like looking at new toys even if not our own.

Cheers.

-- Sooner or later Liberals run out of other people's money.

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BenDupre

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#2 posted 03-02-2017 04:22 PM

If you want American made you’re going to have to look at something used. Good luck.

-- The problem with communication is the illusion that it has occurred. – George Bernard Shaw

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Flacer

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#3 posted 03-03-2017 07:13 AM

Thanks for replying guys, I’ve looked into the used market a couple of times and decided against it for now. I know I’m not going to get American made and have more or less excepted that but if either of the above options had an amarican motor that might sway me one way or anouther.

I called Baileigh today and there sales rep Andy said for sure there machines did not have amarican made motors but the guy I talked to the day before said they did?? Also Andy said the 883p did not come on wheels yet video from there website says it does? I’m kinda puzzled with there sales reps seemingly being uneducated!!

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Btdk34

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#4 posted 03-15-2017 06:56 PM

Flacer,

I’ve just purchased the Baileigh IJ-883P jointer, although they are currently back-ordered until mid-April. I’ll post an update here when I receive it to let you know the motor-brand and if it does come with wheels (I’m almost positive it does).

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William Shelley

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#5 posted 03-15-2017 08:03 PM

“American made” is a relatively useless feature these days. Quality doesn’t happen because the assembly instructions are printed in english, it happens because the company that builds the product cares about quality. There are plenty of factories in Taiwan, China, India, Mexico, Indonesia, etc that can churn out amazing products. Likewise, there’s plenty of factories in the USA that can produce expensive junk and be late getting it out the door.

-- Woodworking from an engineer's perspective

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#6 posted 03-15-2017 10:24 PM

I have been impressed with the Delta DJ-20 jointer. It is so long, it’s almost automatic to end up with a straight board. 76” long, parallelogram adjustment, and just solid. It has been made in several countries including Brazil and Taiwan. Mine was built in Taiwan, and is flat and coplanar to within .002”.

I don’t think Delta sells it anymore, but there are clones from Grizzly, Shop Fox and others.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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Flacer

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#7 posted 03-16-2017 07:18 AM

Ahh they said it was back ordered I’ve called them multiple times and still haven’t gotten any good info so I’ll be really interested to see what you think of it. From what I can find it seems like a really well built machine.

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rwe2156

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#8 posted 03-16-2017 03:24 PM

For the price of that Baleigh, you can get a 12” Grizzly and that’s exactly what I would do!!

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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Btdk34

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#9 posted 03-17-2017 07:04 PM

I had actually considered a Grizzly 12” jointer, but it looks like the cheapest 12” jointer (standalone) they carry is $2,795.00, which was a bit over my budget of $2000. I’m not seeing a cheaper option, which model are you thinking of?

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#10 posted 03-18-2017 12:11 AM

I called Baileigh today and there sales rep Andy said for sure there machines did not have amarican made motors but the guy I talked to the day before said they did?? Also Andy said the 883p did not come on wheels yet video from there website says it does? I m kinda puzzled with there sales reps seemingly being uneducated!!

- Flacer


Thank you for reporting it. We were able to identify the representative thanks to your information. He is no longer with the company.

Baileigh management.

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Flacer

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#11 posted 03-18-2017 07:04 AM

Well it has been confusing every time I’ve called get different Info. Still waiting on someone to call me back and tell me what kind of motor is on one lol! I really want to call and just order one but unknowns kinda scare me so far and the over the phone help has been horrible least you guys are trying to fix that it sounds.

I called Baileigh today and there sales rep Andy said for sure there machines did not have amarican made motors but the guy I talked to the day before said they did?? Also Andy said the 883p did not come on wheels yet video from there website says it does? I m kinda puzzled with there sales reps seemingly being uneducated!!

- Flacer

Thank you for reporting it. We were able to identify the representative thanks to your information. He is no longer with the company.

Baileigh management.

- Carloz


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Flacer

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#12 posted 03-18-2017 08:12 AM

I’m really pretty dead set on either the Baileigh or the leguna both have alot longer tables then all others I’ve looked at plus bigger fence and 3hp motors. Reviews on both least the very few I can find are excellent and machines seem well built. I own some other leguna tools and have had zero problems with them but idk still looking for that thing that tips scales one way or another lol!!


For the price of that Baleigh, you can get a 12” Grizzly and that s exactly what I would do!!

- rwe2156


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alittleoff

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#13 posted 03-18-2017 03:31 PM

I’m looking at the grizzly 490X, with free shipping it’s 1395.00. Not a bad price for a 8 in. Jointer. I called the factory an was told it would be May before they had any. The 490 XW will be available I think in April.
Gerald

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Btdk34

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#14 posted 03-20-2017 06:27 PM

Yeah for me it was between the Grizzly 490X or the Baileigh IJ883P. Like Flacer, I couldn’t resist the extra table length and fence length/height as I have some projects coming up that require larger boards. I’ve also heard that Baileigh has good fit/finish, and I liked the blue scheme much more than Grizzly’s green scheme ;)

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Btdk34

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#15 posted 04-27-2017 03:31 PM

Flacer, I just received my Baileigh IJ-883P jointer yesterday and can confirm it does have wheels. The motor is Taiwanese, not American.

It’s built very well. I haven’t purchased a machinist’s straight edge to verify table levelness, but I can say that the fence was exactly 90 degrees to the table at both ends and at the cutter head. Fit and finish is excellent, only a few minor paint blemishes. There is some paint on the polished fence and table surfaces, but that should come off fairly easily with acetone or something similar. The only issue was that the “Stop” locking button came damaged, so I’ll have to call Baileigh to get that replaced.

I’ll post an update when I get the machine up and running, most likely after May 8th as I’m out of town until then.

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