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Forum topic by Knothead62 posted 10-01-2010 04:10 PM 2691 views 0 times favorited 30 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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10-01-2010 04:10 PM

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Back in the spring, I renewed my subscription to WOOD magazine for two years. They kept sending me renewal notices and finally I got one saying that my subscription had expired. I had sent them a email and a letter with a copy of the receipt printed off the website when I renewed in April. I finally called them, cancelled, and asked for a refund. Question- I want to subscribe to a woodworking magazine. What do you LJ’s recommend? I have a couple of book stores close where I can browse through some magazines. Many thanks for your help! FWIW, I consider myself a beginner, one step above a termite.

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#1 posted 10-01-2010 04:16 PM

Wood mag would be my first choice, too bad you had that experience with them. Depending on what type of woodworker you are, Shopnotes or Woodsmith are good. Popular Woodworking is another. I subscribe to all of these, but the best info I get right here on LJ’s.

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#2 posted 10-01-2010 04:31 PM

Popular Woodworking. I subscribe to a few woodworking mags, and used to subscribe to a bunch of others … Popular Woodworking consistantly has good information on a broad range of woodworking topics.

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#3 posted 10-01-2010 04:35 PM

+1 for the “best info is here.” It is important to be conscious of the purpose of these magazines: To sell advertising. And the advertising is often for stuff that will purportedly make your woodworking better and faster.

This is not to say that the editorial info is not good—some of it is—but seen in the larger picture, one must assess the costs and benefits. Again, it may well be worth your time and money to subscribe.

I am most troubled by the blaring huge type which promises “perfect miters in a weekend” and stuff like that. Those land heavy on product and neglect the fact that the real, deep down, soul satisfying learning takes place in the process.

Some magazines get you there better than others. And some just show you pictures of how to look while you’re in the shop.

I will be intrigued to read what our brothers and sisters have to say here. They’re all worth serious listening, and thank you for asking the question.

-- " his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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#4 posted 10-01-2010 05:51 PM

Popular Woodworking, Fine Woodworking, and Shop Notes are my faves.

-- Mike

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#5 posted 10-01-2010 07:01 PM

I like Woodsmith, simple projects done nicely…

-- "Every hundred years, all new people"

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#6 posted 10-01-2010 07:10 PM

Woodworker Journal love them to death been with them 4+ years plus they wave a neat website at

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#7 posted 10-01-2010 07:28 PM

I like Woodsmith and ShopNotes. Both do NOT rely on advertising of products and I find the content useful and interesting.

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#8 posted 10-01-2010 11:57 PM

I like Woodsmith, Shop Notes, Fine Woodworking. I also enjoy reading This Old House, all though that’s more construction than woodworking.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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#9 posted 10-02-2010 12:48 AM

I agree with Woodsmith and ShopNotes mags. but would suggest going the bookstore and seeing what is to your liking. Fine woodworking is a good mag. but I find that it tends to go a little beyond what a beginner or novice might be ready for. If your looking for jigs or shop projects I find buying books to be somewhat more informative. Such as The jigs and fixtures bible or Jim Toplin’s table saw magic. These tend to be more tutorial in nature. I also joined Popular woodworking’s Ezine online mag. and some others have online versions as well. Nothing is as good as the internet in my opinion for instant infomation when needed. If you want to check out shopnotes heres a link.

-- I don't make mistakes, I have great learning lessons, Greg

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#10 posted 10-02-2010 01:01 AM

What Gregn said.
I mentioned in a thread not long ago about mags and their renewal notices. Just about everyone sends these out early and if you aren’t careful you end up with 5 years paid up and they still send you a notice you are about to expire.
This has caused me to re-evaluate and drop some subscriptions They don’t seem to get a clue, or maybe they have a clue and try to operate off other peoples money. Some of those “renewals” aren’t even sent out by the magazine but some billing company.
Whatever you pick,keep an eye on the mailing label which usually has the sub expiration date.

-- Life is good.

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#11 posted 10-02-2010 03:22 AM

What Howie said.

This stuff chaps my ass.

If you have the time, and the inclination, either write them a letter, send them an e-mail, or—maybe best—try to get some VP on the phone.

It’s the “Gimme’ as much of your money, as fast as you can” crap that really WILL put me off. I try (TRY) NOT to stand purely on principle, though. If it’s a good mag, I want to keep subscribing to it, but I do NOT take that crap without letting them know that … I don’t like it.

[rant off ;-)]

-- -- Neil

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#12 posted 10-02-2010 03:22 AM

woodsmith and shopnotes. They are great and a lot less advertising. When I first got started, a freind gave me 2 binders full, they are very detailed, have great techniques and interesting projects.

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#13 posted 10-02-2010 03:25 AM

These are their marketroids. It would be THESE folks who came up with that “real money-making idea.”

I’m going to e-mail them, too. Feel free to copy and paste these addresses, and either point them to THIS thread, or just let them know that … you don’t support the business practice.

It’s easy: about 60d before my ACTUAL last issue … feel free to ping me, AND make it worth my while. But … starting around issue one …. brrrrrrrrrr.,,,,

-- -- Neil

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#14 posted 10-02-2010 03:28 AM

I’ve gotten to the point with subscriptions that I’d just as soon buy a CD or DVD with the year’s stuff on it. That’d take yards less shelf space, and I could look at it when I wanted, without having to make boxes to hold all that bug fuel.

-- Random Orbital Nailer

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#15 posted 10-02-2010 03:28 AM

Sent … just now:

Former VP, here, of three NYSE-traded companies.

I’m also a WOOD subscriber, but … like many of these folks:

Find your little revenue enhancement scheme pretty darned distasteful.

We’re woodworkers. Our stock in trade is quite flammable. Wanna’ see the word get around … LIKE wildfire ?

Keep this practice up.

Wanna’ retain subscribers and attract new ones ?

Tell me how it’s being fixed, and when.

I belong to most of the forums. I’d LIKE to post a satisfactory answer on each of them.

Meaning: I’d like to know that you’ve evaluated this policy, and have decided that it may NOT be in the long-term best interests of your organization.

All the best….
Neil Brooks

-- -- Neil

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