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Forum topic by Keekee posted 02-27-2017 07:33 PM 1158 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Keekee

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02-27-2017 07:33 PM

I’m in the process of getting ready to retire. I’m paying off a SawStop and am considering getting the sliding cross cut sled. Just talked with someone that said his friend bought one but got rid of it. He is saying that every time he went to rip a wide board it had to be removed and was a pain.

Does anybody have any experience with the sled. Good or bad?


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#1 posted 02-27-2017 07:51 PM

I haven’t used it, I’ve only played with it in the local dealer. It seemed well made, smooth running, etc…

I haven’t seen the case for a sliding table in my personal work methods, any sliding table, so I haven’t purchased one. If a sliding table would make me $1000 more efficient, I’d buy the SawStop version. In the past, I’ve considered other highly regarded add-on sliders, but they just didn’t prove themselves into my shop.

Do you have a local dealer? Maybe they could connect you with a purchaser.

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clin

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#2 posted 02-28-2017 01:02 AM

While I have a SS, I do not have the sliding sled. But looking at photos, it seems clear that for ripping wide boards, the fence on it would get in the way. But that fence looks like it could be removed like you would a miter gauge. Maybe a bit more effort. But It doesn’t look like you would need to remove the entire sliding assembly.

But it is an expensive option, and hopefully someone with actual experience will chime in. I’m not really thinking of getting one myself, but I’m curious.

I found this comment at:

http://www.finewoodworking.com/2015/10/28/sliding-crosscut-table

“A common complaint, though, was that to remove the fence (to clear the way for some ripcuts, for example), you need an Allen wrench, which invariably must be tracked down. It would be more convenient if the fence could be removed or moved without a tool.”

-- Clin

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#3 posted 02-28-2017 01:33 PM

“A common complaint, though, was that to remove the fence (to clear the way for some ripcuts, for example), you need an Allen wrench, which invariably must be tracked down. It would be more convenient if the fence could be removed or moved without a tool.”

Even though I’ll buy extra tools to store at the device that needs them, I HATE this!

You’d think by now manufacturers could make tool-free common adjustments a priority on tools and accessories. This is one of the reasons I ditched my Incra miter gauge fences…

Well thought out things, like my Excalibur guard adjust, move in and out of position, and can be completely removed and replaced without tools. I see so many missed opportunities on other devices.

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Putttn

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#4 posted 02-28-2017 01:43 PM

I have the Incra 5000 and while it is easy to install it is somewhat of a pain also. I built a storage rack for it and have wrenc nearby but just end up using my Kapex for just about all cross cuts.
For larger stock I usually don’t bother putting it on. I’m sure there are applications where I’ll use it for precision repeat cuts. I have the Incra TS LS set up on my saw so that negates the need for it even more.

-- Bill eastern Washington Home of beloved ZAGS

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tdwilli1

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#5 posted 02-28-2017 01:47 PM



I m in the process of getting ready to retire. I m paying off a SawStop and am considering getting the sliding cross cut sled. Just talked with someone that said his friend bought one but got rid of it. He is saying that every time he went to rip a wide board it had to be removed and was a pain.

Does anybody have any experience with the sled. Good or bad?

- Keekee

I have one and love it for the crosscuts and support for dados on wide pieces. There are two ways to mount it. Either remove the left wing and mount it there which does limit wider rips. You can also mount it to the wing which allows for much wider rips.

I keep a T handle allen wrench right next to my blade wrenches an never have a problem finding it or removing it. You do have to re-square the fence after removing it but I have little setup system that is pretty fast. 3/4 piece of oak in the miter slot, clamp my long woodpecker square to it and butt the fence up against it and tighten.

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sawdustdad

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#6 posted 02-28-2017 02:04 PM

For breaking down sheet goods, I want panel saw. The vertical rack with the sliding circular saw. Just need to find room for one.

-- Murphy's Carpentry Corollary #3: Half of all boards cut to a specific length will be too short.

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bonesbr549

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#7 posted 02-28-2017 03:09 PM

I have the SS 5hp ICS, and when that came out I looked real hard at it. I went to my local wood craft who had one set up and they said give it a try.

Likes:
- Its heavy duty piece of metal.
- Its smooth and as good an action as the sliders I’ve tried.
- It integrates into the TS well

Dislikes:
- No specific detents for angles. I’ve come accustomed to that with my incra 1000se and 5000 sled. The logic (and I spoke to sawstop) was that that would wear over time and get out eventually. For me, trying to hit that line every time consistently is hard. Let me state those marks are laser cut, but you could get off a skosh. I told them that was a miss on their part. Add a vernier scale and ya got me.
- Cost, a grand and no indents problem.
- Cutting down my rail to make it fit. Thats a hard one to swallow too. I understand as to why, but having to cut that down and be accurate is a PIA.

Final thoughts.
- I do cut occasional wide panels and my 5000 has been great. I also have the MFT/3 with festool TS55 that I used a lot prior to the Sawstop.

For me the 5000 because of the accuracy is my fav. It’s easy to put on and take off and is just dead-nuts on.

If breaking down a lot of ply the caddy would be be the vertical panel saw, but my TS55 tracksaw and a piece of 2” insulation on the floor does fine.

Good luck and cheers!

-- Sooner or later Liberals run out of other people's money.

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Putttn

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#8 posted 02-28-2017 05:20 PM

I also have the TS55 and MFT. I’m finding I seldom use it and enjoy the Saw Stop with the 5000 much more than all the fiddling to get the TS55 going. The only time I find the TS55 useful is with large sheets The sled on the Sawstop is much faster and maybe more accurate.

-- Bill eastern Washington Home of beloved ZAGS

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clin

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#9 posted 02-28-2017 09:48 PM



I also have the TS55 and MFT. I m finding I seldom use it and enjoy the Saw Stop with the 5000 much more than all the fiddling to get the TS55 going. The only time I find the TS55 useful is with large sheets The sled on the Sawstop is much faster and maybe more accurate.

- Putttn

Since I’m probably not the only one that didn’t understand this. I looked this up.

5000 => Incra 5000

TS55 = > Festool TS55 Track saw

I got no idea what an “MFT” is.

Was I supposed to get a secret decoder ring when I signed up on LJ’s?

-- Clin

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Putttn

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#10 posted 02-28-2017 10:05 PM

LOL. Sorry about that. MFT is the Festool multifunction table and the TS55 is sitting on the rail it runs on and the MFT table in your picture. The MFT is the integral part of the Festool system and is basically a table with slots on the outside rails and holes evenly spaced in the top every 3” or so for a myriad of clamping possibilities. Don’t even go there. It’s called the “slippery green slope” for a good reason.

-- Bill eastern Washington Home of beloved ZAGS

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Putttn

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#11 posted 03-01-2017 01:53 AM

I would suggest looking at the Festool MFT table set up. For $665 you can get the complete table set up and take care of any large sheets plus a lot of other possibilities this set up opens up. With the TS55 saw you would be very close cost wise to what the slider is.

-- Bill eastern Washington Home of beloved ZAGS

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bc4393

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#12 posted 03-01-2017 03:44 AM

Depends on what your building I guess. I don’t cut down 8×4 plywood but if I did I’d just grab the saw horses and a 4 foot aluminum rockler straight edge for my circular saw. If you do that stuff all the time maybe it’s worth it. Otherwise my table saw can rip 30 inches on the fence and i only cross cut single boards even though my shop made sled can do 20 something. Single boards I’m dusting afterwards on the disk sander to exact dimension and angle anyway.

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#13 posted 03-01-2017 06:29 AM


I also have the TS55 and MFT. I m finding I seldom use it and enjoy the Saw Stop with the 5000 much more than all the fiddling to get the TS55 going. The only time I find the TS55 useful is with large sheets The sled on the Sawstop is much faster and maybe more accurate.

- Putttn

MFT/3 —-

Since I m probably not the only one that didn t understand this. I looked this up.

5000 => Incra 5000

TS55 = > Festool TS55 Track saw

I got no idea what an “MFT” is.

Was I supposed to get a secret decoder ring when I signed up on LJ s?

- clin


-- Sooner or later Liberals run out of other people's money.

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Keekee

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#14 posted 03-02-2017 02:01 AM

I’ll retire in June or December. Haven’t done woodworking in 30 years. Never knew a site like this existed. Overwhelmed at all the responses. When I left woodworking Garret Wade was a big company for woodworking tools and we used Black and Decker Sawbuck to cut crown molding. Now we have two companies starting with Lee that both make great planes etc. Many types of miter saws.

I think I’ll hold off on the SawStop sliding table till I get my garaged waterproofed. That’s another nightmare. Live at bottom of hill. Garage is under living room so they have to remove my steps, then my porch and my foundation. Pour a new foundation, porch and steps. Then I’ll get the SawStop and I think a Jet Combo Jointer and planer with helical cutters.

I do appreciate all your replies.

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