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Forum topic by Camper posted 09-29-2010 04:23 PM 2384 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Camper

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09-29-2010 04:23 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question jointer

I have a chance to buy one of these three jointers at around the same price range. They are all 6” and comparable motors.

Top left is a Jet and is said to work fine.

Top right is AMT model 4122 which I believe the company is no longer around

Bottom one is an older craftsman model number 113232200.

Any recommendations? Thanks in advance

-- Tampa-FL


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#1 posted 09-29-2010 04:57 PM

I guess if it was me, I would opt for the Jet. Thats a nice looking older model.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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#2 posted 09-29-2010 05:24 PM

The AMT is off the list; they were cheap because nothing was true but everything was adjustable.

Between the other two, I’d downgrade the Craftsman because the splayed legs on the stand will compete with your feet.

The Jet looks like a copy of an early Delta I had, though the position of the adjusting wheels is different.

It looks to me like the Craftsman may have a fixed outfeed table. That being the case, you’ll want to know if the infeed and the outfeed tables are parallel, and the easiest onsite way to do that is with winding sticks—maybe 3/4 square, a foot long. Take off the fence, put one stick on each end, at right angles to the bed, and back up and sight them to see if they are parallel.

That being equal, I’d consider how much vibration there is when they run. This could be as simple as a belt replacement, but that should be a segmented belt and that’s somewhat more $ than a drug store vee belt.

Listen for bearing noise. Bearing replacement on a jointer is fairly easy and straightforward, but this could be the swing vote.

Finally, the condition of the knives. There should be adequate metal against the gibs in the slots. If one has shiny cutting surfaces and the other’s look like Idaho’s Sawtooth Mountains in miniature, you’re looking at some money difference there, too.

If you don’t already know how to set the knives on a jointer, this is a good bonding exercise. I learned from Tage Frid Teaches Woodworking volume 1. I didn’t grind mine like he did, but the setting technique is low tech and very effective.

Let us know which one of the litter jumps into your lap.

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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Camper

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#3 posted 09-29-2010 05:34 PM

Thanks Wayne and Lee.

I am going to look at the Jet this afternoon. Waiting for a call back on the craftsman.

I downloaded a manual for the craftsman (a similar model at least) and that one does have a fixed outfeed table. I am assuming adjustable tables on both sides is desirable. never owned a jointer so I am not too sure about all this.

I am also not sure what to listen for regarding bearing noise but I will check the vibration and knives. The owner of the Jet indicated that it runs fine and has no problems ans is a 20-25 year old model. The craftsman looks like it needs some TLC.

What is a fair price would you say?

-- Tampa-FL

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SnowyRiver

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#4 posted 09-29-2010 05:59 PM

I think if the Jet is in good working order, maybe $200 – $250. The other thing to check would be the stability of it. The Jet has a small stand compared to the bed, so I would want to be sure it doesnt slide around or tip when using it.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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Lee Barker

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#5 posted 09-29-2010 06:16 PM

Woodworking stuff of this ilk in our neck of the woods (and have you ever known woods to have any other body parts?) is going more like $150 – 175.

Adjustable outfeed table is not a necessity, but a nice luxury.

My old Delta was very stable, even though the stand looks puny.

The nice bearing is a silent one. The jointer doesn’t make a lot of extraneous sounds like a TS does, so beyond the whirring sound from the knives, there should be no rrrrRRRRrrrrrrRRRRrrrrrrRRR kind of noise.

Also unplug the machine and turn the belt slowly for several revolutions. You may hear a bad bearing that way, and in any event, you’ll look really wise and experienced. Regardless of the input, then grimace slightly, rub your chin, and let your body language say, “I’m not sure about this deal.” The ensuing silence may get you a $25 reduction.
:)

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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#6 posted 09-29-2010 11:06 PM

check out the new tool here :)

-- Tampa-FL

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#7 posted 10-10-2010 02:58 AM

i own the craftsman jointers brother, and it lacks power, but works well on balsawood and styrofoam. i would skip it. i am replacing mine

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