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Forum topic by Walker posted 02-24-2017 11:48 PM 1170 views 0 times favorited 18 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Walker

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02-24-2017 11:48 PM

Ok, so like many others new to hand planning I made the mistake of starting with a cheapo block plane from the Orange store. I’ve since been through pages and pages of websites, video tutorials, paul sellers, and opinions about pre-wwII stanleys. I’d like to start (for real this time) with a block plane and a bench plane that won’t frustrate the enthusiasm out of me. I’m keeping my eye out for a Stanley #4 or a Keen Kutter K4. A few of you seem to think that Ward Masters can be hidden gems at a good price.

I know there are many opinions out there, but for right now I’m looking for one…should I buy this wards master block plane today?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WARDS-MASTER-BLOCK-PLANE-SEE-STANLEYS-9-1-2-USED-U-S-A-/152443034607?hash=item237e501bef:g:hlwAAOSwax5Yqg7T

*Please don’t go on ebay and steal it from me : ) although if you did, at least I know I found a good one!

-- ~Walker


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ErichK

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#1 posted 02-25-2017 12:02 AM

The 9 1/2 is pretty popular: https://paulsellers.com/2011/05/block-planes-reviewed/
[quote]
Both Record and Stanley have made a wide range of block planes over the last century, but the most popular are the 9 1/2 and the 60 1/2. The Stanley 9 1/2 has a bedding angle to the iron of 21-degrees. The 60 1/2 on the other hand is the low-angle 12 1/2-degree model. Both models are useful, but I think it’s deceptive to present both as necessary planes.[/quote]

Based on ebay listings, that is ‘about right’ of a price though, so no great deal.

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Walker

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#2 posted 02-25-2017 12:17 AM


Based on ebay listings, that is about right of a price though, so no great deal.

I’m okay with that, as long as it works better than a Buck Bros.

-- ~Walker

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JRsgarage

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#3 posted 02-25-2017 01:05 AM

i think you’ll like the adjustable mouth on the block plane but you might want try the 60 1/2. 9 1/2 feels little large…i have a sargent version but rarely gets used compared to 60 1/2.
if buying off ebay, make sure here are no cracks around the mouth. good luck

-- Two is One, One is None

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Walker

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#4 posted 02-25-2017 01:23 AM

hmm, I could always try to get a 9 1/2 and a 60 1/2. Keep the one I like and put the other one back on ebay.

-- ~Walker

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bandit571

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#5 posted 02-25-2017 01:25 AM

$20 is a bit spendy for most block planes….

Based on ebay listings, that is about right of a price though, so no great deal.

I m okay with that, as long as it works better than a Buck Bros.

- Walker


Better than a BB plane? That’s a given.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Robert Brown

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#6 posted 02-25-2017 03:02 AM

You say you are new to hand planing so I ask if you know how to sharpen the blade.

My first plane like yours was a Buck Bros block plane from the orange place too. I bought it to trim the upper edge of a door that was binding. It chattered a lot even after I sharpened and resharpened it repeatedly. It took me six years before I learned how to sharpen a plane blade properly. I have better planes now but still use that first one I bought.

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Walker

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#7 posted 02-25-2017 03:16 AM

I’ve watched all the videos and tried my best to get it sharp. So far, I had it actually cutting curly slivers for all of about 5 minutes, a few passes at best. The rest of the time it just digs in to a dead stop and leaves a big mark. The blade won’t stay parallel, and the adjustment knob takes 2-3 revolutions in either direction before it moves anything. I’ll keep trying, but I want to try another plane also. If I can’t get that one to work either, then I’ll know for sure its me.

-- ~Walker

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Loren

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#8 posted 02-25-2017 03:43 AM

check out the “craftsman block plane” listings
for bargains on movable-mouth planes.

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Walker

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#9 posted 02-25-2017 04:21 AM

Thanks for the replies. I just purchased the Wards Master 9 1/2. If I can’t get that one honed and working well, then I need to take a different approach before I buy any more planes.

-- ~Walker

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TheFridge

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#10 posted 02-25-2017 04:48 AM

I might have 1 or 2 Stanley blocks I could put together. Bought with the intention of refurbishing and never got around to it. I’ll take a look tomorrow to make sure it’s all there. If you’re interested they’re all yours.

Edit: Relieve the edges of the iron if you haven’t already.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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Bob5103

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#11 posted 02-25-2017 05:20 AM



Thanks for the replies. I just purchased the Wards Master 9 1/2. If I can t get that one honed and working well, then I need to take a different approach before I buy any more planes.

- Walker


I inherited a Ward Master #3 from my grandfather. My research determined that it was a rebranded Stanley, for Montgomery Wards. It is a daily user, and I really like it. Enjoy your new plane!

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Walker

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#12 posted 02-25-2017 05:35 AM


I might have 1 or 2 Stanley blocks I could put together. Bought with the intention of refurbishing and never got around to it. I ll take a look tomorrow to make sure it s all there. If you re interested they re all yours.

Edit: Relieve the edges of the iron if you haven t already.

- TheFridge

Thanks for the offer Fridge. If I can get this one working I may add a few others.

Many years ago I had the opportunity to inherent all of my grandfathers tools. I took a few things but at the time I didn’t really know what a hand plane was even for, so I passed on them. About 15 pre-war (based on my grandfather’s age) Stanley’s. Oh the silly things we do when we are young! I know they were Stanley’s because his last name happened to be Stanley. He never had to carve his name into them!

-- ~Walker

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TheFridge

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#13 posted 02-25-2017 05:57 AM

Just let me know. All they’re doing is collecting dust right now.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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OSU55

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#14 posted 02-25-2017 06:10 AM

Here's how I sharpen I struggled as well for a while as well to get a sharp edge, then for a while longer to get a durable sharp edge. There are many ways to do it, but this works best for me.

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Robert Brown

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#15 posted 02-25-2017 09:35 PM



Here s how I sharpen I struggled as well for a while as well to get a sharp edge, then for a while longer to get a durable sharp edge. There are many ways to do it, but this works best for me.

- OSU55


That is what I found out too. It is not just having a sharp blade to make the plane work properly. There is more involved which is why it took OSU55 4-5 years and me 6 years to get the plane to work.

And like OSU55, it was reading Brent Beach’s stuff that finally got that sharp blade for me. However I have since left those jigs behind and sharpen two different ways now. I don’t do micro bevels or back bevels anymore but they did get me that first sharp blade.

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