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Forum topic by bondogaposis posted 02-24-2017 07:55 PM 579 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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bondogaposis

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02-24-2017 07:55 PM

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Every once in a while my ineptitude really shines. I started using Titebond liquid hide glue last year for certain things and found I have been liking it and using it more and more. My bottle was getting pretty low so I decided to try a bottle of Old Brown Glue, because I’ve read good things about here at LJ. Not having a local source I mail ordered it from Rockler. It turned out they were back ordered and as such I was unsure of when it would arrive. Well one January evening when we were having one of our normal winter blizzards and the thermometer was dropping through the floor my bottle got delivered. Only instead of bringing it to my door as is usual the UPS guy decided to be expedient and put it in a plastic bag and hung on a fence rail out by the entrance to my driveway. My driveway is 1200 feet long so I never had a clue that I had a package out there. That is until the next morning when I went out to get the morning paper, it was -10° F that morning, there it was hanging on the fence rail. My first thought was, if that is the glue, it is toast. I brought it into the shop and set it on my bench and forgot about it for a few days when I wanted to use some hide glue so grabbed the bottle tried to squeeze some glue out of the bottle. Well no dice, that stuff was really gelled and I could hardly dig any out with a stick. Thinking again that it was toast I just about tossed it. But being cheap I decided to save it for a while longer, until the pain of wasting $24 subsided a bit. Well a few days later I decide to look in the bottle to see if miraculously the glue would be usable, of course it was not. But for some odd reason I started reading the label, it clearly states that it must be heated in a water bath to between 120 and 140 degrees. So that really got the gears working, hoping that my money wasn’t wasted after all. Ignoring the bit about a water bath I put the bottle in front of the pellet stove which runs almost constantly in the winter months. Now the front of my stove doesn’t get too hot it is not like a wood stove where you cannot touch it. Well lo and behold the glue loosened up nicely in about an hour and I was really happy about not throwing it out. So I got busy a built a little glue holder that fits right in front of the stove so that it could rest there nice and cozy and be at the ready whenever I wanted some hide glue. I thought well that will work for the winter months while the stove is running. I don’t need no stinking water bath. I left the bottle over night and the next morning much to my surprise when I entered the shop I found the top of the bottle had melted. I forgot to anticipate that when the stove comes on in the morning it really cranks the BTU’s until the shop warms up. The glue was nice and warm and liquid but there was no way to get it out of the bottle without cutting it open.

The solution was to get some bottles from HF, $2.99 for 3, 8 oz bottles. Cut the top off the original glue and pour it into the new bottles.

Lessons learned, freezing doesn’t hurt OBG, read the labels on new products, follow the directions on those labels, don’t be so dense. Hopefully this information will be useful to some of you contemplating using this product. I anticipate smooth sailing from here on as regards to using OBG, now that I know what works and what doesn’t.

-- Bondo Gaposis


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ralbuck

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#1 posted 02-24-2017 07:59 PM

Freezing some things is not a problem; however some other things it ruins completely.

Glad you solved your issue.

Dollar Tree probably has the same bottles too.

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#2 posted 02-24-2017 09:41 PM

Bondo, Thanks for reassuring me that I’m not the only one to make minor innocent mistakes. My last one was leaving a gate leaned against the chain link fence under the eave of my metal roofed garage. When the snow fell off it did a real number on the fence.

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#3 posted 02-24-2017 10:43 PM

That big bottle of OBG is too big to use anyway. I put mine in an 8 oz squeeze bottle and put the rest in the fridge. It will become liquid enough to flow at around 70ºF. It’s regular hide glue that needs to be at 140 or so.

I started making my own. It’s exactly the same thing as OBG (I even bought my dry glue from Patrick at OBG), but it costs about $5 per pint instead of $25 for 20 oz. I also formulated it to be a little thicker based on temperature to account for the warmer weather here in southern AZ. Regular OBG gets pretty runny and drippy on hot days.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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Augustine

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#4 posted 02-24-2017 10:51 PM



That big bottle of OBG is too big to use anyway. I put mine in an 8 oz squeeze bottle and put the rest in the fridge. It will become liquid enough to flow at around 70ºF. It s regular hide glue that needs to be at 140 or so.

I started making my own. It s exactly the same thing as OBG (I even bought my dry glue from Patrick at OBG), but it costs about $5 per pint instead of $25 for 20 oz. I also formulated it to be a little thicker based on temperature to account for the warmer weather here in southern AZ. Regular OBG gets pretty runny and drippy on hot days.

- RichTaylor


I just use Titebond glue and have truly found it reliable. After 30 plus years it’s what I reach for, Titebond 111

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Rich

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#5 posted 02-25-2017 04:22 AM


I just use Titebond glue and have truly found it reliable. After 30 plus years it s what I reach for, Titebond 111

- Augustine

Titebond is a quality PVA glue. Liquid hide glue is a completely different animal — pun intended.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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JAAune

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#6 posted 02-25-2017 05:30 AM

It’s probably not a good idea to leave the Old Brown Glue exposed to heat at all times anyway. If my memory is correct, the directions indicated that the glue has a shelf life and that it lasts longer if kept in a colder environment.

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#7 posted 02-26-2017 06:35 AM

you’ll like the obg its my goto glue

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#8 posted 02-26-2017 06:42 AM

Have some bottles but have t tried it yet. Plan on using it for glue ups like dovetails on casework. I now enjoy using its counterpart HHG. Especially in small stuff. It’s wonderful.

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