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Forum topic by pauljuilleret posted 02-22-2017 08:04 PM 910 views 0 times favorited 19 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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pauljuilleret

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02-22-2017 08:04 PM

http://lumberjocks.com/pauljuilleret/workshop#Yesterday I went to the Cleveland Woodcraft store to look at a 19-38 sander I got talking to it and we kinda got attached to each other and dammed if it didn’t follow me home. Now as I have somewhat limited floor space in my shop and I’m thinking about installing it on a bench instead of the base that came with it. I was wondering if anyone else has tried this approach. I can always put a mobile base under the stand that came with the sander it that is best I guess if they didn’t want $89.00 for the casters I wouldn’t be asking for your opinions


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Matt

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#1 posted 02-22-2017 08:06 PM

congrats on your purchase!!! i love mine!

it’ll be fine mounted on a custom bench.

-- My "projects" always look better with beer goggles.

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Bill_Steele

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#2 posted 02-22-2017 09:30 PM

I have the same sander (bought it from AcmeTools.com) and I also love it. I recommend the optional DRO, it is easy to accurately sand to a specific dimension or know how much you have removed. I do not have the extension tables—because I have limited space—but I think they would be well worth the extra $100. It looks like you got them for free from Woodcraft!

It’s kinda funny that you’re nitpicking on $89 castors after spending around $1399 for the sander. I did pay extra for the $89 castors—which in my opinion are very good quality and not really that much more expensive than other good quality castors of the same capability. My basement workshop is small and I have to be able to reposition some of my tools (drum sander, bandsaw, planer) closer to my dust collector (Oneida Mini-gorilla) when I need to use them. I always try to look at spending money for extras from the perspective of how long I expect to own/use a tool/machine and if the extra money spent will add value over that period of use.

I see no reason why the sander base can’t be mounted to a workbench or other stand. I think it would be useful to design the stand so that you have somewhere to stack/store parts that you want to sand. When you have several parts to sand it’s useful to have somewhere to temporarily stage the parts that need to be sanded and the parts that have been sanded in any given iteration.

Congratulations on this purchase—I think you’ll find this tool is very useful.

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#3 posted 02-22-2017 09:34 PM

I’ve got one in my sights later this summer, they are a fantastic machine. Congrats!

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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pauljuilleret

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#4 posted 02-22-2017 09:43 PM

Bill,
good idea the base would be good for many uses around the shop I will get casters for it so I can roll the new shop cart around the shop. All my stuff is on wheels band saw, jointer, plainer, table saw and the shaper in the photo above shows where I would put the sander to the right of the mortise machine as that is just setting there and not attached.to the bench. I will be running the 4” piping from the dust collector tomorrow so I can try it out. I was going to get the dro but they were out of them in fact they said they have never sold one for the supermax. I am waiting on the tables they are backordered by the store.

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#5 posted 02-22-2017 09:49 PM

I have seen people add casters from HF on YouTube. Also, I think Jet offers their 16-32 without a base, so I would see no reason why you could not build a base that would be enclosed underneath (dust free), and not have the base’s flare to it if space is super critical.

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#6 posted 02-23-2017 04:08 AM

I have the 19-38 on mobile stand and love it. I contemplated putting it on a bench but had the stand from a router I had moved to my MFT table. I bought mine from ACME and will buy again from them.
I’m contemplating the DRO from Wixey but can’t figure out the advantage of it. I simply turn mine down 1/4 turn and can’t see what the advantage of the DRO would be??

-- Bill eastern Washington Home of beloved ZAGS

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#7 posted 02-23-2017 04:23 AM

I have the Jet and was shocked at the price of the casters. More than the Supermax if I recall correctly. I got a set of casters from Lowes. More than adequate for the light weight of the Jet, and with locking wheels. They work great. I also have limited space and like being able to roll the drum sander out of the way. I can’t imagine dedicating bench space to it.

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#8 posted 02-23-2017 12:43 PM

I have mine on casters. I move it out to use it. For me, the biggest problem to mounting it on a bench would be changing sanding belts. I need to be able to access both ends of the drum, and I still struggle with getting the belt tight.

-- My reality check bounced...

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#9 posted 02-23-2017 02:47 PM

I mounted my sander on top of my planer. This picture is from my previous workshop, but I kept it this way when I moved to my new shop.

-- Murphy's Carpentry Corollary #3: Half of all boards cut to a specific length will be too short.

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Bill_Steele

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#10 posted 02-27-2017 03:55 PM

Putttn,

Honestly the DRO option is not necessary—the sander will work fine without it and you can use the scale that comes on the sander. The DRO came free with my sander. Since I’ve been using it I’ve grown to like it and I use it every time I use the sander. You can start at 0 OR the thickness of a workpiece and it will show you exactly how much you have moved the drum up or down from that reference point (in increments of .005 I think). It makes it easy to see exactly how much you move the drum head.

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pauljuilleret

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#11 posted 02-27-2017 06:28 PM

In order to bring everyone up to date on what I would up doing with the sander I had originally intended to mount it on the bench pictured at the top of this posting. I good friend came over to help me get it up there well it looked good on the bench till we looked at the operating controls and the depth gauge noticed real quick it was to high to see the gauge well enough to read it so after we got our second wind we bolted it to the stand that came with it so I can roll it around the shop where needed. I also extended my 4” dust collection piping by about 30 feet and added an extra drop so I should be in good shape now.

I want to thank everyone who replied to this post all the ideas are good ones . it’s nice to have a place like this where you can bounce ideas off of one another.

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Bill_Steele

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#12 posted 03-20-2017 03:44 PM

This weekend I was sanding down a couple of old cutting boards and I ended up clogging up 2 sanding belts to the point where they were useless. At first I thought that I would have to throw them out, but then I remember reading that some people have had success cleaning them. I have one of those cleaning (rubber?) sticks but have not had much success with it. I just end up with a bunch of rubber shavings (?) all over the place.

I took both belts and put them in a container with some heavy duty degreaser. I made sure they were submerged. After about 16 hours of soaking I thoroughly rinsed then off with warm water in my slop sink. In some places I did a little light scrubbing with a nylon brush. Once I had rinsed off all the degreaser I spread them out the dry. They are as good as new. Every bit of pitch or finish or whatever was clogging them up is now gone!

Just thought I’d share.

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moke

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#13 posted 03-20-2017 05:31 PM

Bill-
http://lumberjocks.com/topics/95434

I have used Simple Green as recommended to me with great success, then hang to dry….I also bought mine at Acme Tool, but the North Dakota and Iowa Acme’s. I am pretty sure they are not related. I met the owner and CEO of Supermax at a Demo there and he was great….

Paul,
When I bought mine, I thought 89 dollars was high for wheels too, and it is if you compare apples, but only 15.00 or so, and they are great wheels…I never regretted it. You will use this more than you can imagine. I have a big 16” planer too that is used substantially less now. Try and study up on all the uses, you will be amazed.
Mike

-- Mike

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Bill_Steele

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#14 posted 03-20-2017 08:43 PM

Thanks for the link Mike.

I’ll have to try the trick you mentioned about drying the belt around a PVC tube—that sounds like a good idea. It may help the belt retain it’s shape and make it easier to wrap around the drum. I just clamped the ends to some ceiling joists in my basement workshop.

I was amazed at how clean the belt came out of the solvent/degreaser. It dissolved whatever was stuck on the belt. I hope the soaking does not weaken the belt construction. I think those belts cost about $10 each, so I’m happy that I was able to clean and re-use them.

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#15 posted 03-21-2017 06:42 PM

This is on my must have list and wasn’t even aware of them until I visited a friends shop, thanks Victor. Looking at my somewhat local dealer (64 mi) he informed me they were having problems getting them in stock as the demand seemed to have gone up. At the time, several weeks ago, they said it could be up to 3 months before one ordered today would be in.

Looking forward to putting one of these in my shop!

-- Steve, Virginia

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