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HarleySoftailDeuce

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02-22-2017 06:25 PM

Hello LJ members….

I need advice on choosing the correct hinges for a wine presentation box with overlapping top. Because of the very hard nature of bubinga…(spelling is off no doubt)...but it’s a very hard wood and splinters easily.
I know I want nice brass hinges, and want them inside the lid. Small exterior hinges are not an option. I love the look of the finished brass hinges …probably Brusso or Horton Brasses would be fine.

I would like the hinges to mount to the inside of the box without mortises if possible. I’ve always had such good success with LJ.

-- Paul, Bristol,Rhode Island


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splintergroup

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#1 posted 02-22-2017 06:33 PM

Given the overlapping lid, you will need a pivot center outside the box. This means a traditional leaf hinge with the pin hanging outside the box or some form of “SOSS” type link hinge (hidden).

With a leaf style hinge you get loads of strength and the hinge is hidden from above by the overlapping lid. A piano hinge would provide plenty of support.

Hidden hinges tend to be rather weak.

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#2 posted 02-22-2017 06:36 PM

Not sure what you mean by overlapping top, but maybe barrel hinges if the sides are of a suitable dimension to accommodate them. Most other hinges I can think of for this require some part of the hinge to be exposed on the outside of the box.

-- Bill, Yo!......in Brooklyn & Steel City :)

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builtinbkyn

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#3 posted 02-22-2017 06:40 PM

This box has an overlapping top, if that’s what you mean. I used butt hinges.

-- Bill, Yo!......in Brooklyn & Steel City :)

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Lenny

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#4 posted 02-22-2017 10:45 PM

This is what Paul means by overlapping. The lid overlaps the box on all four sides. The hinges of course are at the back. While the hinges on the pictured box are outside, Paul wishes to mount his inside.

-- On the eighth day God was back in His woodworking shop! Lenny, East Providence, RI

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HarleySoftailDeuce

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#5 posted 02-24-2017 12:08 PM

Thanks for the help my friends Lenny & builtinbkyn. I will use mortised hinges…and cross my fingers I don’t get
tear-out. I might just mark and remove by hand; not all that difficult seeing the size if the hinges are so small.

Enjoy your weekend !

Paul

-- Paul, Bristol,Rhode Island

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Woodbum

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#6 posted 02-24-2017 12:50 PM

Lenny: Damn your shop is clean! Does it double as a critical care ward in it’s time away from woodworking :-) ? My compliments on your wine boxes.
HarleySoftailDeuce: On a Greene and Greene humidor I built with overlapping lid, I mortised the wooden Incra style hinges into the back wall and then on the flat underside of the lid. Worked like a champ. I would add a picture, but have no clue how to insert one into LJs. All previous attempt have failed. Good Luck, Work Safely and Have Fun!

-- "Now I'm just another old guy wearing funny clothes"

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HarleySoftailDeuce

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#7 posted 02-25-2017 12:08 AM

Thanks Woodbum….

I’m going to add a pair of butt hinges on the outside of the case and underside of the lid. Should work out fine.
Yeah…Lenny’s shop is cleaner than my house ! He’s a great guy…and we share our projects as we struggle thorugh some challenging pieces.
Lenny came up the idea that we both build the wine presentation box…and he even bought me the bubinga wood!
He’s always doing something for his family and friends.
Thanks to all my LJ friends…and everyone on LJ is a friend to one another.
Paul

-- Paul, Bristol,Rhode Island

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Lenny

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#8 posted 02-25-2017 05:37 PM

First to Woodbum, that is not my shop in the photo. Nor is it my box. That said, Paul somehow thinks I keep a clean shop. It’s not filthy but it’s also not spotless. Thank you Paul for your kind comments. We WILL finish these boxes some day!

-- On the eighth day God was back in His woodworking shop! Lenny, East Providence, RI

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HarleySoftailDeuce

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#9 posted 02-25-2017 06:03 PM

First to Lenny….you indeed are a good friend, a great father & Grandpa and always fun to share our challenges with the projects we do. (oops…and a great husband to Shirley)

-- Paul, Bristol,Rhode Island

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