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mlipps

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02-20-2017 02:25 PM

Topic tags/keywords: grizzly jointer g0490x g0490xw g0490 8 8 inch 8 inch jointer

Hi All,

I’m hoping you can shed some light on this murky topic.

I’m looking to buy an 8” jointer and decided to go with the Grizzly G0490 series. But on Grizzly’s site they have two listed that appear to be the same: the G0490X and the G0490XW.

I printed out the spec sheets and summarized the only differences between the two below. I’m wondering if any of you see a glaring difference that can help me decide which to go with. Also note, when I called Grizzly, all they were able to add was that the jointers are “made in different factories”.

Thanks guys!
M


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#1 posted 02-20-2017 04:22 PM

The G0490X is a traditional 3 blade cutter head were the G0490XW has a spiral cutter head.

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#2 posted 02-20-2017 04:23 PM

According to the website and grizzly they are both spiralhead cutters.

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#3 posted 02-20-2017 04:48 PM

probably, one is made in china and other in taiwan factory. i’d go with the taiwan made…

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#4 posted 02-20-2017 05:23 PM

Both are made in China

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#5 posted 02-20-2017 05:29 PM

My Grizzly 8in jointer has the spiral cutterhead, while my planer has a 3-knife setup. The spiral cutterhead is:

  • Much quieter than a 3-knife cutter.
  • If you catch a nail, you don’t have to replace ALL of the cutters, unlike the 3-knife blade setup.
  • IMO, the carbide cutters last much long through normal usage.

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#6 posted 02-20-2017 05:41 PM

Here are my observations…
Looks to me like the main differences are the cutterhead diameter which results in different number cuts per minute and the motor (12 amp for XW vs. 15 amp for X). The smaller XW head also allows a slightly smaller minimum board length than the X does (8” vs 10”). Since the XW uses a German made cutter head, it might be worth looking at the replacement inserts for both to see if there is a difference in price, quality and availability as well.

For some reason the foot print dimensions and weight are slightly different as well. Perhaps the difference in the motor can account for some of that but it could just be the specs provided by the different factories are based upon different things?

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#7 posted 02-20-2017 05:52 PM

There doesn’t seem to be a difference I can find in the cutterhead performance. The fact that it’s made in Germany is great but the replacement blades on the site seem to be similarly priced and available. Thanks

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#8 posted 01-01-2018 01:56 AM

They both are made in China. All the “w” means is that a different manufacturer made it for Grizzly than the non “w”. Both were made to Grizzly specs…..... just a different manufacturer made them.
I called Grizzly to ask specifically what the difference was and what the “w” ment. And that’s what I was told by one of their engineers.
I asked than which one I purchase? He said while they are both basically the same if it was him he would purchase the non “w” model…..... he said he owned a non “w” Grizzly planer.

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#9 posted 01-01-2018 04:39 AM



Here are my observations…
Looks to me like the main differences are the cutterhead diameter which results in different number cuts per minute….....

- Lazyman

Call me crazy, but I don’t think this is correct. For example, 4” cutter head with 3 blades rotating 2000rpm will give you 6000 cuts per minute…...6” cutter head with 3 blades rotating 2000rpm will give you….6000 cuts per minute.

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#10 posted 01-01-2018 05:56 AM

the question you should really be asking is which version will be in stock the soonest. Grizzly is notorious for advertising these machines only to say oops sorry.. expect a 3month back order. Id go with whichever machine I could get my hands on first. I should know, Im still waiting for my steelex machine and have been told to expect a mid-February ship date. grizzly/shopfox/steelex are all made in the same factory and I think, but I could be wrong that all three brands are owned by the same company.

-- "Nothing happens until you build it"

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#11 posted 01-01-2018 02:54 PM

Same here, I waited about 3 months before I cancelled with grizzly. I then bought a 8in.Steelex off eBay from Factory authorised outlet. At the time they said they had 4 in stock. After they took my money I was told 4 days later it was back ordered. That was 4 or 5 weeks ago. I’m about ready to cancel and hope to get a refund, then forget the cheap jointers and buy a Powermatic.
Gerald


the question you should really be asking is which version will be in stock the soonest. Grizzly is notorious for advertising these machines only to say oops sorry.. expect a 3month back order. Id go with whichever machine I could get my hands on first. I should know, Im still waiting for my steelex machine and have been told to expect a mid-February ship date. grizzly/shopfox/steelex are all made in the same factory and I think, but I could be wrong that all three brands are owned by the same company.

- ScottKaye


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#12 posted 01-01-2018 03:52 PM


Here are my observations…
Looks to me like the main differences are the cutterhead diameter which results in different number cuts per minute….....

- Lazyman

Call me crazy, but I don t think this is correct. For example, 4” cutter head with 3 blades rotating 2000rpm will give you 6000 cuts per minute…...6” cutter head with 3 blades rotating 2000rpm will give you….6000 cuts per minute.

- msinc

I said it in a confusing way but but what I said was technically accurate. The 2 models will have a different number of cuts per minute. What I think (it was 10 months ago) I was trying to point out was that the motor (you left that off when you quoted me) and the cutter head diameter are the main differences and with the different motors’ RPM, you’ll get a different number cuts per minute, assuming that they have the same number of inserts on each cutter head. Sort of a moot point now that Grizzly doesn’t seem to have the XW version listed on their website anymore.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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