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spunwood

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09-18-2010 03:00 AM

Topic tags/keywords: table saw question

I just learned a rather inexpensive lesson. Yesterday, I was resawing a piece of wood on my $60 Mastercraft “10 inch saw. The wood kicked back slightly, but I returned it to its position to continue onward. Suddenly it jammed back into the opening infront of the blade. I was not using a zero tolerance insert. The blade seized up and the machine shut down. Smoke curled forth and the beast made an awful stench which my wife kept commenting on. I removed the wood, pressed the reset button, and tried to run the saw, only to experience an awful chattering and grinding noise as the blade turned.

If I had to guess, the spindle (arbor?) which hold the blade and attaches it to the motor was torqued out of position, and the motor is pretty much toasted. It is not worth fixing the machine which has served as a wonderful companion as I began my woodworking. And the machine taught me three lessons before it died: don’t for a piece of wood, inspect it for knots, and USE A ZERO TOLERANCE INSERT!

On the bright side, the lesson was very inexpensive considering the price of the saw and that all of my fingers are still attached to my hand.

But now we are looking at new saws. Two that we have considered, using coupons and other discounts are:

The ridgid 4510 from HD

&

The PORTER-CABLE 10” Cast Iron Stationary Table Saw with Caster Set from Lowes

If you weren’t looking at price, which is the superior saw?

-- I came, I was conquered, I was born again. ἵνα ὦσιν ἓν


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ChefHDAN

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#1 posted 09-18-2010 03:45 AM

The old adage, “A poor carpenter blames his tools” comes to mind, but then my Grandfather always said, “buy a good tool once and it will be worth the price, buy a cheap tool twice, and your money is wasted, but the somewhere along the way my wife learned on of my father’s saying and shrieks, “WHADDA YA think we’re made of money. SO there…. if what other people say is important then now you’ve got three more to weigh.

I found my Ridgid 3612 as a floor model. I’ve put a fair bit of money into it with blades router table, and endless jigs etc. I’ve been very pleased with it and have turned out some very nice pieces with it. No matter what tool you’ve got you’ve gotta have good technique to go with it. buy what makes sense for where you are in you work and the time you can play with you toys.

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terry603

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#2 posted 09-18-2010 03:56 AM

i don’t remember which magazine it was. they did a test just a few months ago with about 5-6 portable saws,dewalt,bosch,craftsman,ridgid,etc.
the bosch was considered the best by a slim margin…with the ridgid taking the final decision because it was 150.00 less.

-- may not always be right,but,never in doubt.

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mathom7

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#3 posted 09-18-2010 04:38 AM

While I wouldn’t consider myself an expert, in my opinion unless you need the mobility of a portable saw choose the cabinet saw every time.

Most of the saws I’ve used have been work site saws, and even the best direct drive portable can’t provide the accuracy and flexibility of a decent cabinet. I bought on of the Ridgid 4511, which is considered a hybrid, and I enjoy it immensely.

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#4 posted 09-18-2010 04:57 AM

I have a Ridgid 3650 that has been exceptional I think. Boise…it came from HD. If I had to choose between PC or Ridgid, I would take the Ridgid. Just my HO.

-- Life is good.

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#5 posted 09-18-2010 05:05 AM

I’ve looked at the new P/C saw at Lowes. I like what I see in the store but can’t find any reviews on it yet. Till I get more info on it I’ll just keep my Delta.

-- Robert - Haven Wood Crafts

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spunwood

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#6 posted 09-18-2010 05:48 AM

Thanks folks. I really appriciate all this input.

Brandon

-- I came, I was conquered, I was born again. ἵνα ὦσιν ἓν

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Steven H

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#7 posted 09-18-2010 07:57 AM

First of all, what wood were you cutting?
Second what is your budget.

I suggest you to stay away from both of them

I don’t want you to make the same mistake like you have with the 10” table saw you have right now, unless you REALLY NEED it portable.

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patcollins

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#8 posted 09-18-2010 12:47 PM

I think people are getting the traditional contractor saw and the jobsite (benchtop saw on rollers) mixed up.

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cutmantom

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#9 posted 09-18-2010 01:19 PM

I have used the hitachi which I beleive is the same as the PC and I didn’t like it at all, I would go towards the rigid

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#10 posted 09-18-2010 01:51 PM

“Suddenly it jammed back into the opening infront of the blade.” Not sure from your description what happened here. You did have at least the OEM insert in, right? What opening was in front of the blade? Were you ripping a very thin piece?

You can measure the spindle alignment with a good square in relation to the table saw’s top and miter gauge slot. If you damaged the spindle, a mounted blade will no longer spin true. Sounds like the smoke was from binding wood. If your saw is a belt drive, the belt could be shredding and making a noise as you describe. I have an old Rockwell TS (retired) that made an awful noise when the belts start to go. The belts had “teeth/gears” on them and if they started to wear out they would scream.

Your choice of saw will depend on many factors. I am not a fan of portable saws, but if I had to pick, I go with the PC.

-- Clay (Master Kindler) ~ Central VA

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iamwelty

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#11 posted 09-18-2010 02:20 PM

Ridgid is where I would go… I’ve been pleased with all of my Ridgid tools and their warranty is “priceless”

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#12 posted 09-18-2010 03:50 PM

Its also nice to move up the food chain to a saw with a quality fence. I can’t wait to upgrade my contractors saw.

-- www.woodtoyZ.com

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#13 posted 09-18-2010 05:20 PM

ridgid makes some really good tools and all there tools come with a lifetime warranty

-- kosta Virginia Beach, VA http://www.kostasworkshop.blogspot.com/

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#14 posted 09-18-2010 05:28 PM

Porter cable, I had nothing but good with them :)

-- Proverbs Ch:3 vs 5,6,7 Trust in the lord with all thine heart and lean not unto your own understanding but in all your ways aknowledge him and he shall direct your path elmerthomas81@neo.rr.com

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HorizontalMike

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#15 posted 09-18-2010 06:41 PM

[quote] ”If you weren’t looking at price, which is the superior saw?”

I personally like option #3, Grizzly. At the beginning of summer (May 2010) I had ordered the 10” Grizzly G1023RLW for $1175, but after waiting because of an extended backorder delay (this was a new release) I ended up changing my order to an in-stock 10in. G0690 for $1150 and ordered the T10222 router table attachment for $375 to complete my dream machine.

All said and done including shipping, I paid a total of $1713 for my ”Ultimate Tablesaw” w/ router table, and that was TWICE what I had originally budgeted for in a tablesaw. Now that I am several months down the road of ownership, I HAVE NO REGRETS AT ALL. I guess I should show you the tablesaw that the new Grizzly replaced so here it is. At 58 years of age I figured that I did NOT want to go through replacing the tablesaw AGAIN and wanted something that would last the rest of my life. FWIW, I think this Grizzly fits the bill. I believe what everyone on LJ has said over and over again, and that is buy a cabinet saw IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, no if’s and’s or but’s about it.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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