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Forum topic by IowaWoodcrafter posted 672 days ago 3181 views 0 times favorited 18 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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IowaWoodcrafter

256 posts in 974 days


672 days ago

I build a lot of Arts and Crafts style furniture which means lot’s of mortise and tenon joints. I’m tired of drilling out the mortise and cleaning them up with chisels. Anybody that has a mortising machine I’d love to hear a review of it. I’d like to see reviews of multiple brands, Jet, Delta, General Machine, Grizzly, etc. Thanks in advance.

-- Owen Johnson - aka IowaWoodcrafter

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Betsy

2386 posts in 794 days


672 days ago

Owen – I have the Delta tabletop mortise machine. It works great. You do have to do some careful alignment of the bit to be sure its square, etc. But once set correctly you can get good mortises with it. That’s not to say that you’ll not have to clean up some with a hand chisel. But definitely not as much cleaning up as with drilling with a typical round bit.

The other thing is to make sure your bits are always sharp. A dull bit is a killer. They are not hard to keep sharp.

I’ve used a General mortise machine at a woodworking school that I liked as well also. It’s a much heavier machine than my Delta and probably would be great for a production shop. My Delta is plenty for a weekend hobbiest.

Long and short I would have no problem telling you to buy a Delta. I’ve been quite happy with mine.

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Scott Bryan

20754 posts in 720 days


672 days ago

Owen,

I’ve got a Jet that I bought at an auction for $60.00. When I unpacked it I found that the chisels had never been opened. Apparently it had been assembled and never used despite being about two years old. I have never had a problem with mine but then it doesn’t get used a lot. The biggest problem I have had with mine is where to store it. Since I don’t use it every day I don’t want it taking up bench space. I put a 3/4” ply base on mine that has a 45 bevel on each side and stored it in a cabinet. When I need to use it I mount it between two mating cleats that are screwed to the bench top. This is the only mortiser I have ever owned and would definitely buy another Jet but I agree with Betsy that keeping the bits sharp is critical to getting good performance out of the tool.

-- With God's help all things are possible- even woodworking. Woodworking is not just a hobby, it is an (expletive deleted) expensive hobby.

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mot

4903 posts in 934 days


672 days ago

I have the general benchtop mortiser that doesn’t tilt. It cuts effortless mortises as accurately as you bothered to setup the machine. I clamps good, holds down good, has a smooth action, great stops, a strong motor and is easy to setup. I’m very pleased with it. The only change I might make would be to mount and xyz vice to it to facilitate a little faster cutting of by just cranking a handle to move the piece along. Other than that, it holds prime real estate on my bench, not because it gets used a lot, but because it does exactly what it’s supposed to do.

Cheer!

-- You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation. (Plato)

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GaryK

9537 posts in 886 days


672 days ago

I also have the Delta, and I am very happy with it.

-- Gary, East TX -- The longest journey begins with a single step.

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Marge

144 posts in 852 days


672 days ago

I use the delta and have been very satisfied.

-- Marge, Colorado

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EdC

458 posts in 738 days


671 days ago

The ultimate mortise and tenon machine is the one David Marks uses one his TV show Woodworks. Its called a Multi – RouterIf you go to his web site he has a link. www.djmarks.com
A more affordable machine is the Leigh FMT, they make them in Canada. I bought mine on the web. I have no regrets. very easy to set up. It uses a router, I have made very few mistakes with it, and I’m not a rocket scientist. www.leighjigs.com
They also have what I think is the best dovetail jig made

-- Ed - Milan, IN

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IowaWoodcrafter

256 posts in 974 days


671 days ago

Thanks for all of the reviews everyone! I looked at the web sites of all the big tool manufacturers last night. Currently I’m leaning towards the Steel City mortiser. If anyone has one of these please give me your opinions.

If I don’t go with the Steel City I’ll likely buy the Delta. The Steel City has a few features I like. It has the easiest access to the chuck to change the bit of any model I’ve seen. It has a nice feature that allows you to move the wood without unclamping. It has wings that extend to provide better support. It sells for $279 at Amazon with free shipping and currently has a $40 mail in rebate.

If you have experience with other Steel City tools but not the mortiser what is your impression of the quality of the brand?

-- Owen Johnson - aka IowaWoodcrafter

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Karson

25806 posts in 1298 days


671 days ago

If you buy it from Amazon. Use an Amazon link on LumberJocks. Because then Martin get a kickback from the other web site. This keeps this site going.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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John's Woodshop

126 posts in 914 days


671 days ago

I have a Delta 14-651 and I am quite happy with it.

John

-- John -- Racine, WI -- Woodworking..."It's not just a Hobby, it's an Adventure"

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Dorje

1767 posts in 895 days


671 days ago

I have the Delta 14-651 too and have no complaints. Though with the first one I did. It was machined poorly and had to much slop up high and was too tight down low. Fine tuning the adjustment couldn’t do it. Poor casting job on that one. I took it back and adjusted the next one to satisfaction before leaving the store and haven’t looked back.

I seriously considered the Steel City, but thought I’d save a couple bucks. Well, I blew that one, with the time spent troubleshooting and having to return the first unit. I really liked the Powermatic, but decided it was too expensive for the amount of mortising I do at this point. I think you’d be making a wise decision on the Steel City. I haven’t heard any negatives and like you said, they have a couple of features that top the Delta.

-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA

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motthunter

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671 days ago

I have both a jet and a leigh FMT. My Jet gathers dust and I am thinking of selling it. The FMT is great.

If I were to buy a new dedicated mortiser, I would get the steel city one. It is far superior to all the others. Now for arts and crafts where a square hole means a lot, the FMT may not be your best choice.

-- making sawdust....

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Greg3G

770 posts in 983 days


671 days ago

I have the General like Mot but I went ahead and spent the extra and got the one that tilts. I absolutly love this thing. Keep in mind, THE INSTRUCTIONS ARE S@#$. Despite the poor instruction manual, it is very easy to set up, the shipping protectorant cleaned up easily. It seems to work better and better as I use it. Very solid fence, good torque, has great hold downs one from the top and one from the front. I did spend some to hone the chisles (bear in mind, I suck at sharpening.) It was worth every penny I paid and would buy it again in a heart beat.

-- Greg - Charles Town, WV

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CedarFreakCarl

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671 days ago

I’ve got the Fisch 1hp 6×6. It has a 1200 rpm motor on it which is nice for not generating a lot of heat with the slower bit speed. It’s plenty heavy-duty and has done all that I’ve asked of it. It’ll punch up to 1” square hole all day long without breaking a sweat. The only thing I don’t like is the “return spring” which I probably wouldn’t have noticed except that I had seen a mortiser comparison in FWW that had griped about it. Some of the other machines used gas struts and counterweights. I probably wouldn’t have considered it except that I got a deal ($515) which made it a no brainer. Otherwise I probably would have purchased a 3/4hp model of something else.

-- Carl Rast, Pelion, SC

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Karson

25806 posts in 1298 days


671 days ago

Current Woodsmith Magazine I received today Vol 30, Issue 175 has an article on Hollow Chisel Mortisers. Not a review, but how to use them.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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IowaWoodcrafter

256 posts in 974 days


671 days ago

Karson,

That article is what kicked off this thread. I read it and thought it would be great to get reviews from everyone. I’ve pretty much decided I’ll go with the Steel City. Unfortunately I was wrong about Amazon having this machine. It was Woodcraft that has it. The rebate is good till March 31. I’m saving up to buy it. As soon as I get it and use it I’ll do a formal review. If Amazon picks it up before I make my purchase I’ll make sure and go through the LumberJocks link.

BTW, does anyone know where the Steel City Mortiser is made? If it’s made In the US or Canada then I won’t feel bad about buying it. I will probably change my mind if it’s made in China.

-- Owen Johnson - aka IowaWoodcrafter

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Dorje

1767 posts in 895 days


671 days ago

I think it’s China or Taiwan.

-- Dorje (pronounced "door-jay"), Seattle, WA

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Chris

1469 posts in 889 days


226 days ago

Ed,

Did you pick up the Steel City mortiser? just wondering because I just picked one up today “used” (barely). I was wondering what your impressions were of the machine.

-- Chris

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TomHintz

83 posts in 296 days


226 days ago

I have reviews of several mortisers with photos and some videos at the link below.

Mortiser Reviews

-- Tom Hintz, www.newwoodworker.com

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