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TacticalRedneck

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02-08-2017 10:28 PM

Hello. I have been browsing for quite some time and have not come across anything specific enough to what I am looking for.

So, I purchased a HF Dust Collector and have found from research that a lot of people recommend a Wynn filter and a separator inline prior to the Dust Collector.

The Wynn filter is not in my budget unfortunately. So I was thinking of venting outside, however, my “exhaust” would have to run probably 4-6 feet. Is this acceptable?

I was then thinking of using the Rockler Dust Right 4” Dust Separator components (http://www.rockler.com/dust-right-4-dust-separator-components) to make a separator.

Would this be a decent setup? I’m really trying to keep that real small dust from settling on EVERYTHING!

Last question, is a thein baffle an advantage with the above setup? I’m still not 100% sure what it will help me with if I have a separator.

Thanks


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Bill White

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#1 posted 02-08-2017 10:36 PM

There are as many opinions as there are noses.
I just put good felted bags (from Highland Woodworking) on mine, and was done.
Use it all the time with good results.
Kinda like how much money do ya wanna throw at you’re DC.
Mine might be a minimalist approach, but that’s my story.
If I had a production shop…..............might be a different story. Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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TacticalRedneck

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#2 posted 02-08-2017 10:42 PM



There are as many opinions as there are noses.
I just put good felted bags (from Highland Woodworking) on mine, and was done.
Use it all the time with good results.
Kinda like how much money do ya wanna throw at you re DC.
Mine might be a minimalist approach, but that s my story.
If I had a production shop…..............might be a different story. Bill

- Bill White

So you replaced the HF filter with the felted bag? Do you still get a layer of dust all over the shop?

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EugdOT

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#3 posted 02-08-2017 11:18 PM

It depends on what you are cutting, plywood and mdf will create much more fine dust than a hardwood, regardless you should invest in a good respirator.

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Lazyman

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#4 posted 02-08-2017 11:33 PM

Look for LJ threads about using Donaldson truck filters. They are much cheaper than the Wynn filters but supposedly just as effective.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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TheFridge

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#5 posted 02-09-2017 01:13 AM

If you vent outside the filter is irrelevant. Use a separator to catch the big chips and the fines blow away. 4-6’is nothing.

I put my separator ( the drum deal in between the bags) on top of a plastic 55 gallon drum outside with a Turin baffle cut into the lid. I was surprised how much dust it caught and it had better suction.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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Lazyman

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#6 posted 02-09-2017 01:45 AM

Turin baffle?

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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Rayne

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#7 posted 02-09-2017 03:39 AM



Look for LJ threads about using Donaldson truck filters. They are much cheaper than the Wynn filters but supposedly just as effective.

- Lazyman

I have one and it works great.

TacticalRedneck,
Some of the details of my build, including the truck filters is in my project and comments. It would just depend on your budget.

Click for details: Dust Collector Modification Part Deux

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skatefriday

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#8 posted 02-09-2017 05:27 AM

I built a Thein baffle with a HF dust collector, cut a 4” hole in my garage wall and vent outside. Works well enough that I had to empty the garbage can the baffle sits on after about 18 months of weekend dust making. And you can’t tell I’m venting outside as there’s no visible detrius.

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htl

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#9 posted 02-09-2017 09:33 AM

If you are able to vent out side just use extra large pipe to the out side why wouldn’t that work?
Like skate said no problems, you’re not blowing saw dust out at least nothing big just super fine dust.

Must remember I’m looking at it from a small hobby shop out look not some big production operation.

-- There's a hundred ways to do anything, alot depends on the tools at hand.

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TacticalRedneck

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#10 posted 02-09-2017 12:49 PM

First..thanks for all the responses. I appreciate it.

So I think what I will do is make the separator using a 30 gallon metal can with the above mentioned Rockler Dust Right components. I will then run an exhaust roughly 6 feet outside. This will fully eliminate the filter and bag of the HF collector, correct?

This will help in many ways for me…one being budget and two it will have a smaller footprint for my small shop.

Thanks again.

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TheFridge

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#11 posted 02-09-2017 01:07 PM

Yeah should be fine. it’s pretty much exactly what I do. I stopped mine 1’ outside and didn’t glue the 90 so I can pull the barrel away from the pipe and take the collector off the barrel.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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htl

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#12 posted 02-09-2017 01:33 PM

Get a cyclone from the US or one of the dirt cheap China ones, would be cheaper and a cyclone will put much more of the dust in the bucket and not send it out the wall.
If you check out the China ones get the one with the rounded top it’s a newer model.

-- There's a hundred ways to do anything, alot depends on the tools at hand.

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mrg

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#13 posted 02-09-2017 01:36 PM

You didn’t say how close you are to your neighbors house. I wouldn’t want to be blowing the dust into the yard or anything. Just a thought.

-- mrg

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rwe2156

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#14 posted 02-09-2017 01:59 PM

IMO a system functions better is exhausted outside. 6” PVC or metal duct that distance shouldn’t be a problem. Position the blower in such a way to minimize bends.

You can either exhaust directly into a bin (a box with screened sides works good) or better, use a cyclone. This will elilminate the need for a dust bin and avoids spewing dust and shavings all over the side of your building and into the air.

There are lots of plans out there for DIY cyclones that will save you $$’s.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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TacticalRedneck

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#15 posted 02-09-2017 02:00 PM


Get a cyclone from the US or one of the dirt cheap China ones, would be cheaper and a cyclone will put much more of the dust in the bucket and not send it out the wall.
If you check out the China ones get the one with the rounded top it s a newer model.

- htl

Thanks for the info…would this be in place of the Rockler Dust Right components and trash can?

I have attempted to find these…they all seem to be 2 1/2 inch hose size. I believe I need 4. Do they come in 4?

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