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Will Merrit

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02-07-2017 08:06 PM

Topic tags/keywords: carving tool blade jointer plane carving shaping joining sharpening mallet spoke shave

Good afternoon fellas,

I am a board member at a local Classical Christian School and also have a woodworking shop. I am going to host the 7-8th graders to come to my shop and do a simple project. The boys will come with me into my shop and the girls in the class will go into the house where my wife will teach them to do hair, (she is a barber).

The project I have in mind for them is making a wooden mallet. I have plenty of oak stock that I will have prepared beforehand, by cutting out the mallet head, boring the holes and tapering them and a rough handle. They will get to use a hand plane to flatten the head and most of the remaining work will be done with spoke shaves. they will spend time shaping the handles to fit with the spoke shave and then finish their mallet with some furniture wax.

Here is my question: I only have about 3 spoke shaves and need about 7 more. Do you guys know of a company or place that might donate some to us? I have been to all my local thrift, antique and pawn shops and only found 1.

Thanks.


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Bill White

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#1 posted 02-07-2017 08:14 PM

Will, the 110 Stanley will do a lot of work if ya teach ‘em how to set it properly. Might not be a bad experience to learn how planes function. Stupid simple plane, but the basics are there for the learnin’.
Spoke shaves are a different animal. Might be too intense for the typical student at first.
Bill

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Tim

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#2 posted 02-07-2017 09:03 PM

Have you considered not making the gender roles so rigid? I bet there would be a girl or two that would rather make a mallet than do hair. Then again if all their gender roles are also rigid at home, maybe they’ve never been given a chance to consider anything else.

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William Shelley

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#3 posted 02-07-2017 10:12 PM



Have you considered not making the gender roles so rigid? I bet there would be a girl or two that would rather make a mallet than do hair. Then again if all their gender roles are also rigid at home, maybe they ve never been given a chance to consider anything else.

- Tim

100%. I really don’t want to get into a political or religious debate but… I saw the boys vs girls comment, went back up and re-read “Classical Christian School”, and then said “oh, gotcha.”

Opinions aside, let the kids pick what they want to do. I mean, this sounds like an “elective” activity, right?

As far as spoke shaves go, you might have luck posting on your local craigslist as well.

-- Woodworking from an engineer's perspective

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#4 posted 02-07-2017 10:22 PM

To get back on topic these spoke shaves are on eBay all the time for under $5. I just receive mine. They take about a month to get. DEfinitly need tuned since it’s mass produced from china. It’s my first spoke shave but for the proce u cant beat it for practice

-- Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy might

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Will Merrit

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#5 posted 02-07-2017 11:01 PM

Yes, yes calm down boys they will get to choose. However, most of them would like to go in with the wife. Thanks for the tip Jcamp.

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JCamp

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#6 posted 02-08-2017 12:25 AM

No problem Will. If u decide to go that route I can get u some picture of mine to give u a idea of the “quality”
Uncanny I don’t mean for this to come off agressive but why are u asking for understanding And tolerance in the same paragraph that u call Wills beliefs twisted and pushy. U don’t seem to practice what u preach very much
Will asked for advice on spoke shaves…. it would probably b best to keep comments directed at that….

-- Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy might

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Will Merrit

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#7 posted 02-08-2017 06:50 AM

Evening gentlemen,

I am going to remove this post in a little while because besides the handful of meaningful comments on SPOKESHAVES this has turned into something else. Might I add something else I have a good deal to say about. So, I will make this offer to Uncanny. If you would like to debate your philosophical worldview I am up to the task, just not here. We can PM if you would like, but this drive by philosophical stuff doesn’t get us anywhere. The observation put forth by Jcamp is spot on however and exposes a logical fallacy. You cannot call for tolerance and open mindedness and then condemn someone who has decided that they choose the path of Christianity. This type of fallacy exposes fundamental logical issues that you typically see in pubescent teenagers. Namely, I want to play my ball game with everyone and I want everyone to have a equal chance to win, as long as I win and set the rules. The fact is that if you want to have a leg to stand on in a argument like this you must borrow from Judeo-Christian standards of logic to make it worth listening too. And if you can’t follow the logic on why I say that feel free to hit that PM button.

I just wanted to know about spoke shaves.

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#8 posted 02-08-2017 09:38 AM

I had a try with one of the cheap metal spokeshaves and it was near-useless.

I’ve had better luck with the cheap wooden ones like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flat-Bottom-Spokeshave-Edged-Wood-Handle-Slot-Plane-Woodworking-Carpentry-Tools-/282207919140?hash=item41b4e71c24:g:Z5cAAOSwCGVX5o6U
Also blindingly simple construction if you are teaching them about the tool.

Obviously your mileage may vary and they are a bit tricky to set, but the best dirt cheap option I have found.

-- I've worked out how to sharpen, now how do you get blood out of pine?

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#9 posted 02-08-2017 02:14 PM

I am cleaning up this thread. I will reopen it shortly.

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#10 posted 02-08-2017 02:21 PM

Will Merrit, I am sorry that your thread was derailed.

I just wanted to know about spoke shaves.

- Will Merrit

Lets get this discussion back on topic now.

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bigblockyeti

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#11 posted 02-08-2017 02:35 PM

I have a Stanley 12-951 that is currently ~ $16 and while it works good now, it did take a little tuning outside of sharpening and setting the blade correctly to get it to where it is now. As far as getting someone to donate a few, I can’t help you there, someone or some business local to your area would be where I would start.

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JCamp

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#12 posted 02-08-2017 03:13 PM

Will you might also check with your local boy scouts to see if they would/could loan you a few. My brother in law is over a BS camp and they have hundreds of old tools that ppl have donated to them that they don’t even use.
Like big block said you should check with Rockler,Woodcraft, lowes,Menards, HD to see if theyd donate or mark down some. If even one kid would start wood working the store would make their money back pretty fast or the store would just use it as a tax deduction.
If you are able to make get some for free/cheap they would be good gifts for the kids once their project is done…. providing parents don’t mind them having it since there is a blade involved

also get some gloves for the kids since there is a blade involved. You don’t want a law suit cause billy bob was screwing around an cut off a thumb

-- Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy might

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GR8HUNTER

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#13 posted 02-08-2017 03:22 PM

maybe try a tool rental place ???? GOOD LUCK :<))

-- Tony Reinholds,Pa. REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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Will Merrit

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#14 posted 02-08-2017 03:27 PM

Cricket, Thanks for the clean up.

All, I appreciate the hints. I do not mind spending a few bucks on them I will start looking around.

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#15 posted 02-08-2017 05:42 PM



I am cleaning up this thread. I will reopen it shortly.

- Cricket

I just wanted to hijack the thread for a sec to offer a big “Thank you!” to Cricket for moderating and keeping things civil!

As for the spoke shaves, Will, have you tried looking up and contacting any local woodworking clubs?

And best of luck with the class. I wish my school had offered some sort of woodworking or shop class to broaden my horizons.

-- "Ladies, if your husband says he'll get to it, he'll get to it. No need to remind him about it every 6 months."

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