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Forum topic by ppg677 posted 02-07-2017 06:37 PM 3122 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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ppg677

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02-07-2017 06:37 PM

Hi, I like my Ridgid R4512. No alignment issues, solid saw, and at 280 pounds and on wheels is still reasonably portable for my small shop.

Unfortunately the fence sort of sucks. Even when I press the left side of the T when tightening, I don’t think it is repeatably parallel to the blade hence I get burn marks when using a 50t combination blade.

Looks like my fence upgrade options are as follows:

0) Attempt a DIY fix like this guy: http://lumberjocks.com/topics/58544

1) Delta T3 fence from Home Depot, $180 shipped

2) Incra TS-LS, $450 shipped and on backorder for 6-7 weeks

3) Vega Pro 40, $370 shipped. http://www.tools-plus.com/vega-pro40.html

4) ???

I’m not finding Biesmeyer anywhere other than eBay and looks to be about ~ $450 shipped.

I’d prefer to keep the ~30” rip capacity (to the right) that I currently have. I’d prefer to keep the existing steel wings that I currently have. I’d prefer easier installation.

Concern about the Delta T3 is that some people report concave fence due to poorly extruded aluminum.

Concern about Incra TS-LS is that I have to wait 7+ weeks.

Concern about Vega Pro 40 is that I’ve read I have to figure out a different wing system, and since it is 40” rip capacity, I need to cut it (?).

Comments? Roll the dice on a T3 and return it if it is not straight?


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6744

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#1 posted 02-07-2017 06:44 PM

I put a T3 on my Ridgid about 5 years ago. A little project, but huge difference in performance.

Works great!

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kam_wood

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#2 posted 02-07-2017 07:14 PM

I have installed Vaga Pro 40 on my R4512 and it is OK. There was no need to drill anything for the front rail but for the back rail I had to drill and tap one hole. The measuring scale still need to be peeled off and re-glued (it is about 0.5 in off). Also there was a problem with the plates that supposed to be attached to the extension table. I sent an email to Vega and never heard back.

To be honest, $370 sounds way toooooooo much for the fence.

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greenacres2

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#3 posted 02-08-2017 12:34 AM

Just to round out the replies, I’ve had an Incra TS-LS on my C-man version of that saw for 4 or so years now. Made to install in existing holes, easily repeatable, haven’t needed to square it up at all since install. Since the saw is left tilt, when I change blades I simply reset the scale—just slides to 0 after kissing the blade to the fence. (that makes more sense once you’ve used it!!)

My experience with that system—i’d be willing to wait 7 weeks if I needed to. Carbide Processors is showing 4-6 weeks, and they ship free. That time frame on their site may be off, but my last few Incra purchases have been from them with net prices delivered better than any I could find. And..they’re good people to deal with!! (no financial interest, just a happy camper.)
earl

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alittleoff

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#4 posted 02-08-2017 03:55 AM

There’s a reason you have to wait on the incra. They’re very good. Love mine. But that’s a long wait. I’m waiting for a wonder fence for a new router setup now.
Gerald

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Madmark2

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#5 posted 02-08-2017 04:14 AM

Incra is gold for a reason. It will elevate your skills to the next level. I have the LS-III as well as the miter gauge and several of their rules.

M

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ppg677

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#6 posted 02-08-2017 04:23 AM



I put a T3 on my Ridgid about 5 years ago. A little project, but huge difference in performance.

Works great!

- 6744

How do you handle the wings with different rails? Looks like the wings are supported by the existing rails

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Dustin

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#7 posted 02-08-2017 01:10 PM


I put a T3 on my Ridgid about 5 years ago. A little project, but huge difference in performance.

Works great!

- 6744

How do you handle the wings with different rails? Looks like the wings are supported by the existing rails

- ppg677

Any time you add an after market fence to a table saw, you’ll typically have to line up the new rails with the old, then mark and drill corresponding mounting holes in the rails to match the current ones. I had to do this with an Accusquare fence I put on an older Craftsman (another good fence option I don’t see mentioned often, and it has t-slots in the fence for mounting auxiliary/sacrificial faces), and it wasn’t too much of an ordeal.

-- "Ladies, if your husband says he'll get to it, he'll get to it. No need to remind him about it every 6 months."

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ChefHDAN

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#8 posted 02-08-2017 01:56 PM

I can’t see dropping that kind of cash for a fence that is essentially worth more than the saw. I had some issues with my Rigid and after getting the Woodpeckers Saw Gauge to improve my set up, (over previously using a square etc.) and then using clean sharp blades I got rid of the burning.

If you’ve already done all of this, then disregard, but I’m planning to keep hiding some money until I can upgrade the entire saw, and then sell off my Rigid.

-- I've decided 1 mistake is really 2 opportunities to learn.. learn how to fix it... and learn how to not repeat it

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Davevand

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#9 posted 02-08-2017 02:58 PM

If you are close to Houston I have one of these I would sell you cheap
http://grizzly.com/products/Aluma-Classic-Fence-Standard/W1716

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ppg677

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#10 posted 02-08-2017 03:50 PM



If you are close to Houston I have one of these I would sell you cheap
http://grizzly.com/products/Aluma-Classic-Fence-Standard/W1716

- Davevand

Thanks, unfortunately I’m a long ways from Houston! I live in Wisconsin.

Agree on not putting too much money into this saw. At some point I see an upgrade to flesh-sensing technology.

Sounds like the Home Depot T3 fence might be the best bet. If its a dud I can return it. I doubt Home Depot would notice if I drilled some additional holes in the rails.

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Madmark2

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#11 posted 02-08-2017 04:05 PM

Incra mounts on any saw without drilling. The T slot allows you to mount on any hole spacing and the brackets are slotted for vertical adjustment. If you buy Incra you’ll remount it on your new saw. The Incra puts new life in an old saw.

M

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dday

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#12 posted 02-08-2017 05:25 PM

I would try the DYI solution first. If that doesn’t suffice , I’d go with the Delta.
My saw came with that fence and it’s worked flawlessly

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ppg677

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#13 posted 02-09-2017 01:14 AM

I’m going to try a DIY solution. In fact I may even use a 3d printer to custom-print a sliding (plastic) piece that doesn’t have slop.

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Todd

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#14 posted 02-09-2017 09:07 PM

I used UHMW tape to tighten mine up. Works fine for me.

-- Todd, Huntsville, AL

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