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GR8HUNTER

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02-06-2017 03:55 AM

Topic tags/keywords: scroll saw

http://lancaster.craigslist.org/tls/5963464800.html

Would love to hear advise on this post ….since it would be my very first scroll saw

-- Tony Reinholds,Pa. REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN


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ralbuck

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#1 posted 02-06-2017 04:13 AM

As a fan of scrollsaws; for over 6 decades now; NO!

It is not a particularly good deal.

A The Delta part is fine; I do not like the blade fastening mechanism on them , but that is a strictly personal deal.

B. A- 2 peed is wrong twice= never the right speed—either too fast or too slow! Get variable speed it will be much more versatile for all sorts of materials and projects.

C. To me it is too spendy at right around $200 you can get a 18” variable speed Porter -Cable at Lowe’s. I have one and like it as well as I did my DW except for the aluminum table on the P-C. But just keeping it waxed—I had to do that on the cast-iron table on the DW also. ( NW OR- has a rust issue).

D. New comes with a warranty.

Hope this helps, I still have a scrollsaw that is past 60 years old and still works—used very little for the last 40 years as I needed more capacity and power.

I like the blade tensioning in front and on the top, the back is usable; but underneath is a real pain in the butt.
The 16 inch is a usable capacity for most projects.

Good Luck and I will be interested in what you buy.

DeWalt is a decent saw too. Many of the higher end (Hegner, Excaliber and others) ones run up too a grand or more. So start with a cheaper unit to find out if you really like it before spending HUGE $$$$$$$.

-- SAWDUST is THERAPY without a couch! just rjR

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MrUnix

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#2 posted 02-06-2017 04:44 AM

IMO, Not. It’s a $50 saw at most.
Here is basically the same saw in your area for $35.
Here is a brand new variable speed craftsman for $5 more than the Delta you were looking at.
(Note: it says “5 speed”, but it’s actually a variable speed model)
Don’t know how far this one is from you, but here is a Hitachi CW40 for $70.

There are always good deals on scroll saws popping up…

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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papadan

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#3 posted 02-06-2017 06:10 AM

I’ve had my Ryobi for about 16 years now and it still works perfect. It is variable speed, uses pinned and unpinned blades, and the blower works very well to keep the dust out of my vision. $99 now http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-1-2-Amp-16-in-Corded-Scroll-Saw-SC165VS/205419917

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Dutchy

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#4 posted 02-06-2017 06:30 AM

I’m sorry to tell you: Don’t

For me this is one that vibrates to much. It would be waste of your money.

Maybe this article from LJ Scrollsawgirl will help.

-- https://dutchypatterns.com/

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#5 posted 02-06-2017 09:05 AM

Tony, I bought a new Ryobi some years back and gave it away when a good 20year old Hegner came up for sale.
The Hegner had all the upgrades including a foot pedal and runs very smoothly.
Save up your pennies and buy the best you can, well worth.
Just my two bobs worth…

-- Lifes good, Enjoy each new day...... Cheers from "On Top DownUnder" Crowie

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Robert Keeney

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#6 posted 02-06-2017 09:49 AM

The saw you are looking at is way over priced for a used saw.

I own an old AMT cast iron single speed, old RBI Hawk Two Speed and Excalibur EX21. I never use anything but the highest speed. I’m not sure having different speeds is useful unless you are cutting something other than wood.

The important thing to me is how long does it take to change the blade and retension the blade. The EX21 wins no contest.

-- Robert in Tallahassee Florida, http://OdinsToyFactory.com

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Kelster58

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#7 posted 02-06-2017 10:30 AM

I am inclined to agree with the others here. I don’t think I would buy this saw. Good luck !

-- K. Stone “Tell me and I forget, teach me and I may remember, involve me and I learn.” ― Benjamin Franklin

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HorizontalMike

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#8 posted 02-06-2017 11:12 AM

I have this Delta model, and have had it for 23-24yr. I agree with all the above. It still runs great though the blade system is a bit weak and a PITA. I originally paid $179 NEW, at the time. Today this saw is a $50 saw and NOT more.

There are better scroll saws out there. IMO, buy new.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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GR8HUNTER

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#9 posted 02-06-2017 02:53 PM

thank you for all the great replies …... I know now it is overpriced ….when you start out looking ..it just fills up your mind to fast ….good to have other opinions …I know I could get new …but just not sure how much I will use this type of saw ….then again I don’t want to end up with …. a vibrating piece of crap :<(( ..... that I will never use ….....THANKS AGAIN :<))
I really appreciate it

-- Tony Reinholds,Pa. REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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Styles

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#10 posted 02-06-2017 03:10 PM

I just bought an older Delta that is pinned and pinless, single speed off craigslist for $20. If you are patient, you will find one in that range all day any day. Both of my scroll saws (Delta and Craftsman) were off craigslist for $20. Patience is all you need.

-- Brad, Madison WI, DIYer and Hobbyist

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CharleyL

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#11 posted 02-06-2017 03:13 PM

The resale value of a better saw is much higher, so if you decide that scrolling is not for you, you will have a much better chance of getting your money back. This thing is not worth $50 let alone what he is asking for it. Get yourself a good quality saw and you will have a much better chance of enjoying scrolling too, but if you don’t, you will be able to sell the better saw for almost what you paid for it.

Charley

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#12 posted 02-06-2017 03:35 PM

If you can, maybe a friend has a scroll saw. Have a look and try theirs out. It will give you an idea of what is important. You have received good advice here. I started out with a cheap model craftsman. Had to get on my knees and use two tools to change/put the blade in the bottom holder. Needless to say I didn’t use it much. I know I like scrolling, but the saw was too much hassle. When I really wanted to seriously get into scrolling, I gave that saw away and apologized for doing it. Got a “remanufactured” Dewalt for around $300. It had a warranty. Changed my life. Now I scroll all the time.

Scrolling can be more complex than people think. Lots to learn. Many types of scrolling. If you really get interested, Scroll saw Village has a very active forum, tons of info and articles and lots and lots of free patterns.

-- “We all die. The goal isn't to live forever; the goal is to create something that will.” - Chuck Palahniuk

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LittleBlackDuck

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#13 posted 02-07-2017 05:08 AM


...but just not sure how much I will use this type of saw ….

- GR8HUNTER


If you continue with T & J plans you will get all the opportunities to use one. This is ideal for all those complex fender and mud-guard shapes… and off the tool to boot… with virtually no sanding (minimal). Furthermore I consider it the next most safest tool in my workshop… next to the broom.

I bought a cheapo one at the start as it wasn’t much dearer than a good coping saw. Two semi cheap scroll saws later the shekels spent accumulated and at the end I hadn’t made much of a saving. Finally I bit the bullet and bought an Excalibur (Hegners were not available) and if I deducted all the money wasted on the cheaper ones… it would have cost “just” a couple of hundred more… Now I have a quality tool that will not fail me and need to be replaced.

Bottom line… If you want to save money become a financier. If you want good woodworking results buy quality tools… the best you can afford (even if you have to sacrifice a beer or two).

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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GR8HUNTER

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#14 posted 02-09-2017 04:57 PM

hello all , what about this one :
http://www.sears.com/craftsman-16inch-variable-speed-scroll-saw-21602/p-00921602000P

-- Tony Reinholds,Pa. REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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ralbuck

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#15 posted 02-09-2017 06:24 PM

I think that for the money that is a much better deal than the used one.

If you end up hating it you should be able to get at least 3/4 of your money back from this one.
The only thing I can see that may or may not be an issue is the location of the vacuum port. It may get in the way and it may not.
I have had very good and very poor Craftsman tools.

It is not going to be a Excalibur or Hawk, but should be a very serviceable unit for a long time.

-- SAWDUST is THERAPY without a couch! just rjR

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