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Dagobah

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02-06-2017 01:46 AM

Here’s what I’m working with. It’s walnut veneered plywood with a solid walnut frame. When sanding the glue squeeze out from where the two meet, I ended up burning through the veneer around much of the ply.

I’ve got a can of General Finishes water based walnut stain. Wondering if applying it to the entire project will help cover up these burn throughs?


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Loren

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#1 posted 02-06-2017 02:01 AM

No. Stain won’t fix it.

This is the sort of situation where paint comes
in handy. With dry brushing acrylic model paints
you should be able to get some decent concealment
going.

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Madmark2

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#2 posted 02-06-2017 02:02 AM

Opaque paint or try again . . .

M

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#3 posted 02-06-2017 02:04 AM

This DVD may help now and for future solutions. To be upfront we produced this for Mohawk using their coatings staff.

http://grizzly.com/products/Wood-Finishing-Repair-DVD/T21177

-- Wuddoc

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canadianchips

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#4 posted 02-06-2017 03:24 AM

The core in that veneer plywood will show up a different color than the walnut.
Do a sample piece…...oversand a scrap , stain it and see the results.
Any traces of glue will also show up when stain is applied.

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Dagobah

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#5 posted 02-06-2017 03:37 AM

This project has been a learning experience, but so far all mistakes have been fixable. This sounds like it’s going to be a lot more noticeable than I’d hoped :(

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shipwright

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#6 posted 02-06-2017 03:53 AM

You will never hide it. The base problem is that the veneer on cabinet grade plywood is about as thick as a photographic emulsion. OK it’s often < 1/64”. Anyway it does not sand well. My suggestion would be to either

A) Cut the edges off and make a smaller table top or whatever it is and be more careful this time
or
B) Inlay a trim strip that covers your boo boo.

- You can be more precise with a card scraper than you can with a sander.
- You won’t have to sand glue off if you use hide glue. It can be cleaned up with water.

Good luck!.

-- Paul M ..............the early bird may get the worm but it’s the second mouse that gets the cheese! http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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rwe2156

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#7 posted 02-06-2017 03:40 PM

As Paul said, you should be able to add an inlay that will make the border appear thicker. Shouldn’t be that hard to do.

BTW, I once measured the veneer on some ply and found it was .008, or 1/128”.

That may be slightly thicker than photo emulsion but its still ridiculously thin :-D

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#8 posted 02-06-2017 04:06 PM

This whole project has been a learning exercise, so not sure I want to add inlays on top of everything else.

I’m going to try finishing a sample board with similar burn through to see just how bad this will look (and if a stain) helps at all.

My hope is that it looks good enough to keep going with the project. Then I’ll be able to look back in a year and laugh at how much I’ve progressed by then.

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shipwright

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#9 posted 02-06-2017 09:45 PM

I wish you luck.
Stain will not get you there but if you are a good enough artist you just might hide it with dye or as Loren said, paint ….. as long as you don’t look too close.

-- Paul M ..............the early bird may get the worm but it’s the second mouse that gets the cheese! http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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