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Bob #2

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09-14-2010 03:34 AM

Topic tags/keywords: second hand tools rant question humor

A while back I placed an ad on Kijiji for my radial arm saw. When I bought it I thought it would make more use of it than I did but one thing leads to another and it ended up having about five or six hours use in 20 years. It just won’t fit in my new shop conveniently and with modern tools I have now the duplicates the tasks I do with my other tools.
After 305 looks at the saw on Kijiji I received a call Saturday morning at the strike of noon just as I was inserting a cheese sandwich in my anxious mouth. The voice at the other end of the line asked me some hard to answer questions like would he be able to lift it on the back of his truck how much did it weigth, what could be cut with it and finally where did I live. I did my best to answer his questions as directly as possible. Find he said I’ll be over between 1:30 and 2:00 to take a look.
So, I changed my plans for the afternoon and proceeded to putter around the house and wait for this guy. I got it out of the corner, set it up for good look and even got a dolly and brace out for the journey to the mans truck.,
1:30 became 2:00 and 2:00 turned into four o’clock the phone rang again. It was him. Now he says I’ll be around between five and six? I say yes but I’m cleaning up as were having company. A long silence.
What do you want to sell the saw not? That remark gave me cause for thought and I replied yes I suppose I do but not do you and not on your terms. What did I do? he exclaimed. I ran down the scenario I explained to you above and he said quite simply… “well I was busy.” I said could you not have called me? And he said I just told you I was busy.
I guess the only reason I’m relating this tale of woe to you is to remind us how difficult it can be to sell second hand goods to an uncaring public that thinks nothing of arranging appointments and not showing up. Had this happened to me just once I wouldn’t be writing this diatribe but it seems that happens every two or three times I make a formal arrangement with the stranger. The question becomes are we losing our civility? Would the average homeowner be better off donating unused merchandise to charity or simply placing it in an auction? For me, I’m about at the jumping off point. My time is too valuable to me to avail myself of this nonsense on an ongoing basis.
What are your thoughts?

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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#1 posted 09-14-2010 03:40 AM

WOW, a simple phone call would have been the LEAST he could do. keeping his appointment would have been better

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#2 posted 09-14-2010 03:42 AM


I can completely relate! I remodeled the better half of my basement this summer (I still need to finish the bar, but school started… haven’t had the time or inclination yet!), and have attempted to sell a lot of the materials and whatnot on Craigslist.

Not that I experienced the degree of disregard for time that you received on your one item, but I received a ton of disregard on the 10 plus items that sold/didn’t sell combined!

I don’t mind haggling, but at least make an appointment, come look at and then look me in the eye when you try jam for a better price/deal! Don’t dally through email or on the phone!

And another thing… if you tell a guy you’ll be there “around 10 AM,” try to be there within a 30 minute period either side of 10! I have things to do to!

And finally, if you do show up and you are interested, cash is cling! Don’t haggle with me and beat the last dollar out of my fist, and they try to give me a check!

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#3 posted 09-14-2010 03:43 AM

I think you did good saying what you said.

that said, I’ve had -almost but- nothing but good experiences with people off of craigslist – I assume the equivalent to your kijiji up north.

apparently some people think they are above civility and other people.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#4 posted 09-14-2010 03:53 AM

I’ve experienced the same thing selling on Craigslist. It also amazes me how many people want the item, but want me to deliver it because it is “inconvenient” for them to come and get it. I just tell them, “Here’s the price, come and get it when it’s convenient for me, and bring cash”. Don’t let the tail wag the dog.

-- I don't make mistakes, only design

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Bob #2

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#5 posted 09-14-2010 03:55 AM

Thanks for understanding guys.
I’m not as miffed at the no show as I am at the attitude out there. I’m seeing itway too often now and it makes me wonder what it could be like in ten years.
We have both Kijiji and Craigslist here so placing and advert is pretty striaght forward.
The attitude here really is poor and perhaps feuled by the oil boom where idiots make $19.00 an hour driving forklits.

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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Bob #2

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#6 posted 09-14-2010 04:02 AM

BoiseJoe, I’m happy for you. Thanks for the advice.

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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Lee A. Jesberger

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#7 posted 09-14-2010 04:17 AM

Hi Bob;

I love dealing with people like you have described. Nothing like a little common courtesy. I can tell you, I think I would have handled it much the same as you, getting to the point I would refuse to sell it to them.

Some people have never heard of the golden rule.


-- by Lee A. Jesberger

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#8 posted 09-14-2010 04:34 AM

I haven’t tried selling on CL or any other site. I have bought a few used tools. I must be a GEM, I do what I say and show up :-)

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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Bob #2

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#9 posted 09-14-2010 04:35 AM

HI Lee:
I think guys like you and I who have to deal with the public on a dialy basis perhaps have a lower threshold for inconsiderate people. I just hope that my actions towards this goof will help wake him up to his responsibilities as a purchaser.

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

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#10 posted 09-14-2010 04:42 AM

A little off the center but I had some furniture delivered about 2 weeks ago. The furniture store said it would be here between 8:30 AM and 11:30 AM. I stayed home all day even had to cancel and appointment. At 5:25 PM I get a phone call, the delivery guys, very apologetic. We are so sorry we had a meeting this morning and couldn’t get to your delivery, would it be alright if we came tomorrow because we don’t get paid after 5:00 PM. I very politely said to him ” I don’t give a d%$m if you don’t get paid or have to work till midnight, get my articles here, or you won’t have to worry about getting a paycheck! I called the store the next day and talked to the manager and told him what went on, he told me they did have a meeting at 7:00 AM. he would find out where those guys were that they couldn’t get to their drop on time. They didn’t have a reason.

As far as craigs list, I always tell the buyer first come first gets, money talks.

If they show up more than an hour late it’s always sold.

Bob G.

-- BobG, Lowell, Arkansas--------My goal in life is to be the kind of person my dog thinks I am! Make more saw dust!!

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#11 posted 09-14-2010 04:47 AM

I havent had much time of late to play on this woodworking forum but I am so glad I read this cuz you make me laugh and I needed that. TKS.

the world has gone mad?

time is endless and I doubt that in 150 years, wether ahead ot behind, the world of upright primates will change, has changed, can change and my only saving grace at times is the fact that me and my world is , are, will, pretty much and mostly men, easier going, non emotional and for this reason alone, woodworking works for me. ...............I love the world of gasoline and greed as much as the next person

What a complicated world

people are generally stupid and I have come to believe our cousins the great apes like Gorillaza and chimpanzees and orangatangs are way smarter then we think ? How we treat them isnt much different then we treat each other?

Past history has shown current history would say so.

Since a “bitch session” is in order for comedy purposes only then might I start and can I call it waste my &^%$#%^ time.

How come my service providers all change me a “delivery charge” when in fact they didnt deliver me jack shit. Like a natural gas delivery charge when in fact I had them lock my meter out and then they sent me a debt recovery charge when ? debt reduction charges, delivery charges and it all comes in the mail and if you dont pay on time for that which you didnt recieve a robot calls you and in the end you pay a “tax” on shit you didnt even consume but pay for a fat infrastructure, bloated with total hipocrascy BS ? come only those that are the fat assed governement gravy train have time off?

For the young man I employ. I would like to thank his sorry ass for showing up and finding every reason why he cant work, and every reason he had to go home. Why he had to show up “early” just to tell me about his privalaged week-end, his water skiing, his Dad, his hobbies, like I have time to hear all his, crap. ...and that after lsitening to it, the only way to turn the shit off is tell the man “I have to have a shit”................and silence.

Gimme a break will ya. I swear the only way to get some folks to shutup is to “listen” and slowly thats hard on ones patience?

People find every reason to try and make “you” believe “they” are right when most often “they” are ”%$#! up”

Good Luck Bob

I feel your pain

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#12 posted 09-14-2010 04:57 AM

Bob #2, Unfortunately, I think rude, inconderate attidutes are cast in stone in early childhood.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#13 posted 09-14-2010 05:00 AM

if you could start over.

What would you change?

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#14 posted 09-14-2010 05:04 AM

I only give the buyer a small window of time, but one of their choice. I they cannot meet their window, then they are not buyers, but only ‘Tire-Kickers’. It is called ‘Being responsible’. If they are not, why waste the time on them?

-- Rustfever, Central California

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#15 posted 09-14-2010 05:10 AM

I try to make appointments early in the day, so if they don’t show, I still have most of the day left. I’m not a particularly good time manager, but it just makes sense to me.

-- "A man may conduct himself well in both adversity and good fortune, but if you want to test his character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln

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