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Rich

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02-02-2017 02:03 AM

I have plans to build an Arts & Crafts inspired chandelier for the dining room table. I have a pretty good idea of the design, but am having trouble locating the lighting elements themselves. It will be a horizontal layout — long and narrow — and I’d like to find two 18” linear light sources. It needs to be a warm, low Kelvin source, so fluorescent will not work. It also must be dimmable, and discrete in that I don’t want a glaring light source showing from underneath.

LED strip lights seem to be around 4,000º Kelvin, which is too white. Something with multiple halogen sockets might be closer to what I’m looking for.

Does anyone have experience doing this? Any advice, or sources for light components would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.


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woodbutcherbynight

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#1 posted 02-02-2017 02:52 AM

If you get some lexan you can make a diffuser for the LED’s. Several ways to dim it down, one would be hit it with coats of semi-gloss poly this turns yellowish. Another possibility is to use a yellowish lexan, you could get some from a sign shop probably a broken piece would do.

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#2 posted 02-02-2017 11:46 AM

Do you have an Ikea nearby? Their LED light strips are almost always way warmer than I want. Looking online, they make a strip called the dioder for bookcase lighting. Color temp is 2700 degrees. It is $20 for 4 strips that are all joined together.

Alternatively, Amazon has a great selection of led stuff. I have gotten some really fabulous LED strips with color changing, color chasing, and other neat effects.

Check out Ikea, though, great place to browse for inexpensive light fixtures you can cannibalize for your project. Also, cinnamon rolls and/or swedish meatballs in the cafe are good sustenance while you’re there.

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splintergroup

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#3 posted 02-02-2017 03:11 PM

Holders for the strip lights are quite cool to work with

Just do a search on “LED strip channel” to find them. You can get 2700 deg. strips at places like amazon

or use some of the RGB style where you can dial in the color of your choice.

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#4 posted 02-02-2017 03:38 PM

Great tips. Thanks everyone.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#5 posted 02-02-2017 07:13 PM

I installed light bars (http://www.lightingwill.com/led-strips/rigid-led-strips.html) under my upper cabinets. They ran ten bucks each (now seem to be thirty for five, each one just over a foot and a half long), can be trimmed to lengths needed for each cabinet, and are dimmable. These light our counter tops so well, we only turn on task lighting when cooking or doing dishes. We rarely turn on the overhead lights.

They may not be enough for your application, so do your research.

You can choose the warmth of the bulbs.

If you dim them at the lights, an inexpensive power supply will work. If you want to dim them at the switch panel, through the power supply, you’ll have to spend about four times as much for a magnetic power supply, which you, probably, would mount near the lights. The latter allows you to dim through a 120 volt switch on the wall, rather than on the output of the supply.

You could just use plexi or the equivalent as a cover. If you want soft light, sand the surface.

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JRsgarage

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#6 posted 02-02-2017 07:22 PM

take a browse through 1000bulbs.com. they have all kinds of lighting related items. i’ve used them couple occasions and have been on point each time. good luck with the project

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#7 posted 02-02-2017 08:21 PM

Take a look at the philips hue strips. You can set the color of the white from warm to cool and to different colors if you like. They are dimmable.

-- mrg

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Madmark2

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#8 posted 02-02-2017 09:04 PM

Superbrightleds.com

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Rich

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#9 posted 02-03-2017 01:32 AM

I’m definitely going to get a sample of the hue strips. They look perfect for my application.

Any experience with the Chinese knock-offs versus Phillips? Phillips all seem to be Alexa compatible and a premium price. I have no desire to have Amazon eavesdropping on my family conversations.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#10 posted 02-03-2017 02:26 AM

Don’t know about the Chinese knock offs, but you don’t need Alexa. Philips has a switch or you can use the wireless kit. I have my house setup with the Hue lights. Also look at Jamco Electronics you can get a roll of LED lights and a transformer for them.

Also mentioned above the IKEA lights are ok. The warmer ones don’t throw a lot of light, I have those around a flat screen for watching movies. The under counter strips may work but are on the cooler side of the spectrum they through good light and are inexpensive.

-- mrg

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#11 posted 02-03-2017 02:36 AM

You asked about the cheaper knockoff lights and there is one difference to be aware of … The shielding around the switching power supply is not up to snuff in some cheaper lights. The interference can cause issues with everything from analog radios to garage remotes.

I learned that cheap LED bulbs are not worth the money, I look for FCC approved lights. Just one person’s experience.

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Kelly

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#12 posted 02-03-2017 04:05 AM

On the other hand, the lightingwill.com lights have worked flawlessly for a year now, my garage doors haven’t opened or closed once, absent intention (neighbors be damned).


You asked about the cheaper knockoff lights and there is one difference to be aware of … The shielding around the switching power supply is not up to snuff in some cheaper lights. The interference can cause issues with everything from analog radios to garage remotes.

I learned that cheap LED bulbs are not worth the money, I look for FCC approved lights. Just one person s experience.

- EngineerChic


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Rich

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#13 posted 02-03-2017 05:42 AM

Seriously? I have to worry about my garage door when I buy lights? That’s ridiculous.

I sincerely appreciate the input though. Definitely food for thought.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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Rich

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#14 posted 02-03-2017 05:46 AM



Don t know about the Chinese knock offs, but you don t need Alexa.

- mrg

I wasn’t thinking I needed Alexa to use them, but it seemed that they were priced pretty high due to the compatibility. I just figured why pay for something I wasn’t going to use.

I’m just trying to figure this all out, and I really appreciate all of the thoughtful comments.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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wuddoc

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#15 posted 02-04-2017 01:27 AM

You may want to check Outwater Plastics

http://www.outwater.com/home/section_R.cfm

-- Wuddoc

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