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Forum topic by Carloz posted 02-01-2017 04:27 AM 2006 views 0 times favorited 35 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Carloz

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02-01-2017 04:27 AM

I do not have a car and commute to work 14 miles one way daily for the last 15 years or so. In these years I never miss an opportunity to help some stranded bicyclist, which happens a lot.

Yesterday my trip home ended in the emergency room. I crashed pretty badly in the canyon, which is on my way home. I am very grateful to the inventors of the bike helmet otherwise I would probably not be speaking with you now. Too bad they did not come with some rib protection and I got some bone fracture and a dislocated joint.

Anyway while I was on the ground unable to move and even breathe, my bike besides me, some other guy on a bicycle zipped by putting on a rubber smile on his face. Then someone walked by pretending I was not there. :-( . The place is pretty desolated so I did not see anyone else, and it already started getting dark and cold.
Good thing I had a phone and called someone who came to pick me up piece by piece and delivered to ER.


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#1 posted 02-01-2017 04:46 AM

Watch this movie – I AM by Tom Shadyac (producer/director/writer of Patch Adams, Nutty Professor, Liar LIar, Evan Almighty, Ace Ventura, and a bunch more). A cool documentary inspired after he had a catastrophic cycling accident, which prompted him to make the film in search of an answer to “what’s wrong with our world, and what can I do to make it better?”.

Cheers,
Brad

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#2 posted 02-01-2017 03:54 PM

Thank God for a cell phone.

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#3 posted 02-01-2017 04:55 PM

Now that a lack of compassion and empathy are considered viable and acceptable modes for running the world, don’t expect to find more compassion and empathy in your fellow man. People have always been dicks, but now they have a political mandate to be dicks. I’m actually shocked that no one stopped to ask you where your bootstraps were and dump some fracking fluid on your broken body before they denied you were broken or injured at all, explaining to you that your injuries were “just a matter of your opinion” and their alternate facts suggest that you are just fine.

Glad you are ok though. Had I been there, I would have patched you up, smoked you out, bought you a beer and given you a hug..

-- “If Jesus had been killed twenty years ago, Catholic school children would be wearing little electric chairs around their necks instead of crosses.” ― Lenny Bruce

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#4 posted 02-01-2017 06:34 PM

If people were more involved a lot of problems would fix themselves. Few weeks back the wife and I are driving and pass a guy laying on the side of the road. Hundreds of cars pass this guy without stopping, but we stopped. The guy was fine, said he was waiting on a ride, but he could have been dead for all anyone knew. I considered calling the cops because laying on the side of the road is stupid but then I believe we have a right to be stupid so I left him be. I’ve also confronted kids I’ve seen shoplift or otherwise misbehave. I once followed a teenager wearing a trench coat in mid summer and acting strangely, was going to call the police but decided he was just an idiot trying to get a rise.

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#5 posted 02-01-2017 10:23 PM

Compassion and empathy are there…..folks don’t get involved because of the threat of being sued for anything the plaintiff can get. Even if they don’t win, you as an individual spend your life savings.

There was a day when everyone did help, nothing but pass it along was expected in return. Thanks to the ones looking for a payday for that going to the outhouse.

Hope you heal quick.

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#6 posted 02-02-2017 03:01 AM

Some people are afraid of getting sued by stopping to help.
But sadly it is also a sign of the times!
And with the vitriol of the last election campaign it will undoubtedly get worse before it gets better.

Most have forgotten and/or ignore the golden rule, ”do unto others as you would have them do unto you”.

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#7 posted 02-02-2017 05:47 AM

Goes all the way back to the time of Jesus and the parable about the Good Samaritan.

-- ajh

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#8 posted 02-02-2017 10:56 AM



Some people are afraid of getting sued by stopping to help.
But sadly it is also a sign of the times!
And with the vitriol of the last election campaign it will undoubtedly get worse before it gets better.
Most have forgotten and/or ignore the golden rule, ”do unto others as you would have them do unto you”.
- oldnovice

+10

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#9 posted 02-02-2017 12:52 PM

If it’s any consolation regarding the state of things, one of the most encouraging things I ever witnessed was while driving downtown, an older person in a mobile scooter or wheelchair (foggy on which one it was) managed to tip it over somehow. Immediately the nearest 4-5 people rushed over to help. The whole event happened in passing, and lasted a few seconds, but it kinda made my day.

-- "Ladies, if your husband says he'll get to it, he'll get to it. No need to remind him about it every 6 months."

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#10 posted 02-02-2017 02:36 PM



Some people are afraid

- oldnovice

I think we can remove the rest of your statement and find all the truth we need right there at the beginning. A huge, paranoid portion of the American public, has been force fed fear for so long that they now know nothing else.

Yep, someone heard one instance on the nightly news of a good Samaritan being sued, they wrote that into their governing programing and it stuck. They filed it into the same part of their amygdala that holds the other fears that “black people are inherently violent”, “Mexicans are rapists”, “pot makes people go insane”, “zygotes are people” and “The Lord is watching me masturbate”.

It’s that kind of irrational fear that dissolves compassion and empathy.

-- “If Jesus had been killed twenty years ago, Catholic school children would be wearing little electric chairs around their necks instead of crosses.” ― Lenny Bruce

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#11 posted 02-02-2017 05:58 PM

All 50 States and many countries have Good Samaritan laws that protect you from being sued if you help someone and those laws have been around for a long time now. Some countries have laws where you can be penalized if you ignore someone who needs help. Alaska used to have laws requiring motorists to lend aid to other motorists, since you could easily die if your car broke down on the Alcan or other remote area.

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#12 posted 02-02-2017 06:18 PM

Rick M, you are correct about the Good Samaritan law but do people even know it exists?

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#13 posted 02-02-2017 06:58 PM

Yes they do, or should. Yes people have been sued unfairly, that’s why we have the laws. Honestly I don’t believe the average person ever gives a thought to being sued, if you watch videos of people ignoring someone in trouble they don’t call for help, they don’t talk to the person, they don’t try to enlist others to help, they just look and and keep going. Like the guy on the side of the road, how will anyone get sued for stopping to ask if he is okay, or calling 911? Yet hundreds of cars passed and none of them did anything. “Not my problem,” is how most people think.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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upinflames

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#14 posted 02-02-2017 07:20 PM

Here is a brief explanation

https://www.verywell.com/do-all-states-have-good-samaritan-laws-1298836

You have to consider that sometimes you have to hang around and give statements and talk to several real people, nowadays the in thing is text, tweeter, fb, folks don’t have time for that, too much to do.

Years ago, south of Wichita ,KS. a car cut a 6 wheel box truck off and both ended up in the water filled ditch, truck on top of the car.

This all happened directly in front of me, grossing 80,000 pounds and luckily got stopped, with no hesitation I bailed off in the water and retrieved 1 survivor out of the truck, the driver didn’t make it, the lady in the car underneath was fine also.

As I was working on getting these folks out, EIGHT or TEN people standing on the bank just watching, no offer of help.

Yes, I had to hang around and give a statement, had to talk to 2 or three more investigators, yes I was put behind schedule, but it was the right thing to do.

It’s all in how the “everybody gets a trophy” bunch was raised. Pitiful.

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#15 posted 02-02-2017 07:46 PM


It s all in how the “everybody gets a trophy” bunch was raised. Pitiful.
- upinflames

I remember my dad bitching about young people and their lack of work ethic, how they never learned basic math in school and couldn’t count change, how the world was going to hell in a handbasket … those young people were baby boomers. And now the boomers are old and bitching about young people. And those young people will get old and bitch about a different generation. People were the same when you were young as they are now as they were 1,000 years ago. The Good Samaritan story demonstrates that.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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