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Forum topic by dakremer posted 09-10-2010 04:22 PM 3163 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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dakremer

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09-10-2010 04:22 PM

hey Lumberjocks. While i am no dummy, and am definitely smarter than a tablesaw (haha) it seems like the old craftsman table saw has gotten the better of me. my neighbor lets me use his woodworking shop and all his tools (nicest guy ever, he quit the hobby, so he has all this equipment just sittin there). anyways, I can not get his table saw to get to an exact 45 or an exact 90. the blade stops at like 45.6 and also stops at like 89.2 I’ve looked under the saw a THOUSAND times – and even though it is just some threaded bolts making the whole thing move, i cannot figure it out. PLEASE HELP ME!! thanks :)

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#1 posted 09-10-2010 04:32 PM

I believe there should be a 45 and 90 degree set bolt you can adjust somewhere, but maybe someone with more experience with this saw can give you their location.

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#2 posted 09-10-2010 04:35 PM

I would say it is probably the table top itself and not the part underneath that needs adjusting. I can’t remember, its been a while since I owned a craftsman, but I know on the saw I have now, you have to adjust the top itself to get it really fined tuned. Hope this helps.

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#3 posted 09-10-2010 04:38 PM

Just to refresh my memory I just checked my old mid 50”s Craftsman saw. On the threaded rod for blade tilt it has 2 stop collars. one on each end, to adjust the stop angle. These collars are threaded onto the rod and secured with a set screw.

Richard

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#4 posted 09-10-2010 04:38 PM

If I understand correctly, the “stops” aren’t quite in the right place, and you can’t get all the way to 90 or to 45 (you’re not going past 45, right?). The first thing I would try is a good cleaning – there may be compacted sawdust on the stops preventing the saw from tilting all the way to the stop.

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#5 posted 09-10-2010 04:47 PM

I just looked at those stop nuts and they are set out to the farthest setting and are not getting in the way. But I did however notice that the actual metal on the side base of the saw is actually sucking in and bowing out when I get close to 45 and 90. I think that is causing the problem. Because instead of tilting the saw blade when it gets close to the two extremes, the pressure is actually sucking in or pushing out the metal side (near the nob for tilting). Any way to fix this??? Doesn’t seem like it – the metal sides are just too weak maybe…...

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#6 posted 09-10-2010 05:15 PM

We don’t have “Craftsman” saws in the UK although I have an old imported version ,it may not be quite the same but at the front end of the tilting carriage the are stop bolts with locknuts & mine had a similar problem to yours all it took was a little adjustment slacken the locknut on the bolt & screw it in a couple of turns the set the blade to 90 deg. now unscrew the bolt until it hits the stop on the carriage casting & lock up the locknut. The same proceedure applies for 45 deg.

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#7 posted 09-10-2010 06:13 PM

Greetings dakreamer, My friend you have found the probelm exactly…....I bought my old Craftsman new in ‘85 (#113.297), and it did the same thing from the get-go, and always has….. The metal that they used back then and eariler was just too thin on the saw body, and when you tried to set it at 45 degrees, it would flex so bad that the wheel was nearly impossible to turn at that point…I tried everything to fix the problem, but to no avail. I don’t think it can be because of the thin walls “caving in”......So I just didn’t try to cut anything at 45…I got the sawblade, fence, and miter all true to 90, and used it like that for years and years( a real PITA), and just never made any projects that required a 45. But then I got my new Unisaw last year, and now I just use the old saw
to cut dados and rabbits and anything at 90…...I know this doesn’t fix your problem, but that is the problem
you are having…....Been there and done that…..I don’t know what to tell you other than get maybe find another saw to use…......

edit: It doesn’t have anything to do with the stops, nuts, bolts, whatever…It’s just the way it is….


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#8 posted 09-10-2010 11:37 PM

I have heard of this with these Craftsman saws. Mine is an old vintage (late 60’s) and doesn’t seem to suffer from it. I have read of others reinforcing the side of the cabinet with the tilt wheel with a heavy steel plate.

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#9 posted 09-13-2010 04:11 AM

My old Crapsman used to do the same thing. I have a Rigid now, but that’s besides the point. I fixed mine by welding two strips of 1/4” angle iron across the thin metal sides. I had to do some cutting on the angle iron where the adjustment wheel is to keep the wheel from contacting the angle iron. When done, it looked like crap (crapsman) but it worked. After all this kludgery, I had to readjust the stop buts on the adjustment screw.

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#10 posted 09-13-2010 04:21 AM

Hey there,
Not sure how old your craftsman is, but on mine there are 2 set screws on the table top that allow me to set the stops. They are just in front of and on either side of the throat plate. Hope that helps!
Buzz

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dakremer

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#11 posted 09-14-2010 02:01 AM

I will have to ask my neighbor if he cared that I did that (that is to put some angle iron on it to keep it from bowing out/sucking in)

Thanks for all the help guys!!

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#12 posted 10-15-2010 06:11 AM

I guess I need to take this into consideration on the restoration of my saw…..... But when looking at it today, there appears to be a piece of metal reinforcing that part of the saw…..

-- Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect. Vince Lombardi

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#13 posted 10-16-2010 05:32 AM

I’ve owned two Craftsman saws in the past. The one I had with this problem was made in the 90s. The other one I had was made in either the 50s or 60s. The older saws was reinforced and didn’t have these problems. Newer saws seem to have more problems than the older ones.

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