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09-09-2010 03:55 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question oak finishing

I’ve recently completed an oak desk finished with Danish Oil Natural. I’m wondering if I should put a top coat of something on that or if the Danish Oil is enough. One of the things I like about the Danish Oil is the ability to touch it up down the road if the desk gets scratched or marked. I can easily sand and apply more Danish Oil because it will simply blend in. I don’t want to loose that so it’s a consideration when selecting a top coat. I was thinking just furniture wax?? Any suggestions?

Jim

-- Jim in Langley BC Canada --- www.sollows.ca


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CharlieM1958

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#1 posted 09-09-2010 04:30 PM

Wax over Danish oil looks great. Unless your intention is to build up a glassy-smooth finish, I would not worry about a top coat.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#2 posted 09-09-2010 07:59 PM

Greetings Jim,
Now this is jut me and what I do….you do it like you want to, and Charlie has some stellar advice…...
A lot of times I use a good coat or two of Danish Oil on the furniture I’m building before I put 2-3 top coats
of a good poly on… To me, the D.O. really brings out the beauty of the wood, and of course, the poly for protection…..If someone sets a cold glass of beverage on it, it’ll be pretty well protected by the poly…I don’t think you’d get that protection with just D.O…..Once the poly cured, then, like Charlie said, a coat or two of wax. But…. you do what you want to…..it’s your project…...

-- At my age, an "all--nighter" is not having to get up and pee...!!!

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#3 posted 09-09-2010 08:53 PM

And I do it like Rick said a lot of times also. It really all depends on the look you are after, and whether you want that extra protection poly will provide.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#4 posted 09-09-2010 08:54 PM

Thanks for the replies. I rarely use Poly and generally use it only under specific circumstances where coating my project in plastic is necessary. It is very difficult if not impossible to repair and I don’t like the plastic look and feel it gives to the wood (just my opinion). I will stick with paste wax. I was pretty sure I was going to go that way but wanted to get some opinions.

-- Jim in Langley BC Canada --- www.sollows.ca

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#5 posted 09-10-2010 01:11 AM

Well Charlie….. I guess that’s that…..I guess he didn’t need our help afterall, or our opinions either….
Sounds like he already had his mind made up…...Oh well…...maybe we can help someone else…lol lol.

-- At my age, an "all--nighter" is not having to get up and pee...!!!

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#6 posted 09-10-2010 01:35 AM

No I hadn’t made up my mind, I was looking for options that I hadn’t considered. Poly is one I prefer not to use but I appreciate the suggestion. I was leaning towards wax but with all the wide experience of fellow LJ’s I was thinking that there might be options I hadn’t considered. I was also not sure if it was ok to put wax on top of Danish Oil but Charlie cleared that up for me … thanks Charlie. I’m still open if there are any other suggestions but if my only options are wax or poly, I will go with wax.

-- Jim in Langley BC Canada --- www.sollows.ca

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#7 posted 09-10-2010 01:50 AM

Jim,
I agree with your leaning towards wax. I’ve used both, and have had really good results using 2 coats of Briwax after 3 coats of DO for my last project. ( alder tables). It is now about 2 months later, with the tables in daily use, and the finish coats have stood up well. That being said, indeed there is nothing wrong witth using a coat or 2 of poly over the DO.

-- -Gerry, Hereford, AZ ” A really good woodworker knows how the hide his / her mistakes.”

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#8 posted 09-10-2010 02:10 AM

Just a thought here from a novice. Can’t you just build up several more coats of the DO for more protection? My understanding was that the resins in it would be similar to a varnish if there’s enough coats,. Then you’d also retain the ability to touch it up without removing a whole top coat of something else.

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#9 posted 09-10-2010 02:15 AM

Excellent, thanks Gerry!! I totally agree that there nothing wrong with using Poly. I’ve used it on some projects but it’s not my favorite finish. My project is a roll top desk and I really want to maintain the feel and texture of natural wood that you get with oil. Hence my dilemma about the best way to protect it without loosing this.

-- Jim in Langley BC Canada --- www.sollows.ca

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#10 posted 09-10-2010 02:19 AM

JonSnc1 interesting suggestion. DO is an Oil + Varnish blend. I have three coats of DO on the project and it looks good, I wonder if maybe you’re right and there isn’t a need for anything else?? Thoughts from anyone?

-- Jim in Langley BC Canada --- www.sollows.ca

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#11 posted 09-10-2010 02:22 AM

I like the Antique Oil Finish over top of Danish Oil for a harder finish.

-- There's many a slip betwixt a cup and a lip.--Scott

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#12 posted 09-10-2010 04:25 AM

Danish Oil will build up a film-like finish, but since it penetrates so well, many coats are needed. Also, depending on wood type, the grain structure might cause you troubles building with danish oil…..oak, for instance, will allow a ton of oil to soak in due to its “openess”. Also, you need to make sure that the previous coat is fully cured, or it may be tacky and smear a little.
just my thoughts,
joe

Oh yeah, I have also had good luck with 3 coats of danish oil under 2 coats of brushed on Arm-R-Seal semi gloss. Great protection, and no plastic look.

-- Measuring twice and cutting once only works if you read the tape correctly!

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#13 posted 09-10-2010 03:03 PM

I use Danish oil quite a bit. I’ve done a few projects with just DO, but they never quite “feel” finished to me. I don’t know if that makes sense or not, but to me there is always a bit of softness to the touch unless I finish with wax or poly. Maybe I haven’t built up enough coats…. I dunno.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#14 posted 09-11-2010 12:13 AM

Charlie,
I agree, regardless of the number of coats, it just dosen’t feel slick to the touch. I suppose the volume of solids in the mixture is just too low to provide that type of coating.

Just had a thought…..I wonder if a “wiping varnish” would build a little faster and still give the same look. I think General Finishes makes this type of product. If memory serves, the wood whisper did a short video on this finish.

-- Measuring twice and cutting once only works if you read the tape correctly!

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#15 posted 09-11-2010 12:45 AM

Greetings Charlie and MoJoe,
Can I get in on this conversation?...lol. Like you guys, I really like using Danish oil, but as Charlie stated
it just doesn’t feel “finished”. I just built a Shaker hall table a while back for a customer out of oak..
What I like to do is use about 2 coats of a natural danish, let it cure for a few days, and then put about 4-5 coats of a good wiping poly over that, using 0000 steel wool in between coats…..and finish off with a final wiping coat, and let it dry…....Now it feels finished, and smooth to the touch…..The w.v. really builds up the coats and 4-5 are plenty…..Makes it look beautiful…...Oh…. and the customer was so happy she hired me to do another job right after that…...

-- At my age, an "all--nighter" is not having to get up and pee...!!!

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