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flipt

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09-08-2010 07:05 PM

New to woodworking/routing in general and am just trying to acquire some tools to get started. I posted a add to the local craigslist in search of a decent setup (router, table, and some bits) and I’ve gotten a lead with a pretty good price I feel. 2x Bosch Routers, bits, templates and a variety of other misc accessories. My question is the router table is a “double router” table that has been used for cabinet making etc. I searched around on google trying to find uses for this type of setup without a lot of luck. The double tables I did find seemed to have the routers setup differently than this setup, so I was hoping you guys could take a look and hopefully provide some insight. The price for this rig is a little above my intended budget, but I feel its a good deal for the equipment included. Any info is appreciated. Thx..

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#1 posted 09-08-2010 07:21 PM

Looks like good stuff if the price is right. Double tables allow two setups which is an important time saver for production shops. The way they are offset reduces the footprint of the table.

-- Joe

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#2 posted 09-08-2010 07:36 PM

Just because you have a double router table does not mean that you have to use it as a double router table.

If I had 2 routers (I actually have 4) I would want one in the table and one to use for hand held work. Ideally, the one in the table will be fixed base and the hand held one will be a plunge router. However, for most applications you can get by with a fixed base hand held router.

I can’t tell a lot about the routers from the pictures other than to see that they are what I would call “medium duty” Bosch routers. It looks like they have fixed bases but it also looks (not certain) like you may have a plunge base option for one or both.

The bits look like a nice starter set. From the picture, it is hard to tell the brand and/or quality.

You didn’t mention the price. I see this as costing somewhere between $250 and $450 depending on condition of everything and the quality of the bits.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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#3 posted 09-08-2010 07:46 PM

Thx for the replies.. The routers are the Bosch 1617s (which are $210 new at the local Lowes). He has the plunge attachment for both. According to the seller they are mostly Freud bits.. Since I’m still VERY new to this I almost don’t know everything I’m looking at… price is a little more that $450. after negotiating, he wants $600… started at $700… says he easily has 3x that much in everything included , some of which may not be in the pics… No fence for the table. Says he always used a clamped straight edge instead .?.?

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#4 posted 09-08-2010 08:06 PM

I have a Rockler router table w/fence and accessories mounted on a shop built table, and a DW625 dedicated to the table. Also have a Porter Cable with fixed and plunge bases for hand held operations. The routers were bought used – paid about $150, for the Dewalt, and $80.00 for the PC and another $125.00 for the PC plunge base. Without bits, that amounts to an investment of about $550.00.

Therefore, a price of $600.00 looks like a good deal to me. A board clamped to the table will work, but I’d pop for a Rockler fence or equiv., or at least make one.

-- Joe

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#5 posted 09-09-2010 01:02 AM

Greetings Flipt,

I agree with Joe completely on the issues of the routers and all the accesseries….. The money sounds about
right as to the cost of everything…..Freud bits are high in cost, and when you put a good starter kit together
you’ve got some bucks laid out…..But….here’s a thought….See if he will sell you the routers, bits, etcs, then
build your own router table and top and fence…..that way you’ll get what you want, have the satisfaction of knowing you built it yourself, and learn while you’re doing it….. I would, and I have….I built 4 r.t

-- At my age, an "all--nighter" is not having to get up and pee...!!!

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#6 posted 09-09-2010 04:33 AM

It sounds like it is “not quite right” for you, and that the only attraction is there are two routers. I would forget about the bits; there are better brands than Freud and if you can work out a deal, consider them a bonus of possible value. It is hard to know the actual sharpness of the bits without running each one.

Will your budget get you two routers (used) and the material to build a table? That, to me, is a wonderful option.

So how about offering exactly what your budget is, and be ready to walk away. If he says yes, you’ve got a good deal which includes some router bits that may be good and may be what you need; if he says no, civilization is not at risk, and you can bask in the knowledge that there are lots of ways to get what you want and stay in budget.

I have owned Bosch routers and found them too noisy for my liking. I have 17 routers, and all but one are Porter Cable.

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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#7 posted 09-09-2010 04:37 AM

The general rule is that a used power tool in good condition should cost about 60% of a new one so I would value these routers at about $125 each.

Freud bits are pretty good. They are also red so the only bits in the boxes that could be Freud’s are the red ones. It looks like he has several speciality bits that you may not have a use for. You are going to be primarily interested in straight bits (with and without bearings), round over bits and maybe a chamfer bit. Don’t buy a lot of bits you don’t need.

The router table is interesting and unique. You probably don’t need a double table and you may be buying something you really don’t need.

Rick’s idea of building your own is a good one.

For $600 you could probably buy 2 new routers, what you need to build a table and a starter set of bits. You could buy one router that is intended for the table (mid-sized fix base) and one that is intended for handheld use (a mid-sized plunge). In the end, you would probably be better off.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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#8 posted 09-09-2010 01:55 PM

I appreciate all the replies/info. I bit the bullet and went and picked them up last night. Now I have all this stuff and have no idea where to begin.. haha.. Turns out, he was pretty cool guy. Gave me a book, some lumber to play around with, a dovetail jig and a band saw as well not in the pix. Said him, his father, and grandfather were all woodworkers and he was just glad to see someone trying to get into it. So, the money is gone, but hey it comes and goes.. So we’ll see what I can figure out with this setup. You guys got any input on a good place to begin with maybe some plans etc to tinker around with?

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#9 posted 09-09-2010 02:23 PM

You might build some something for the shop that has drawers – such as a workbench, assembly table, cabinets, etc. There are thousands of projects on this site to look at once you decide.

LOL – if you work it right, it may be years before you actually build anything for the “outside” world!

-- Joe

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