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Forum topic by AnthonyJ posted 01-26-2017 05:08 PM 750 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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AnthonyJ

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01-26-2017 05:08 PM

Hello all
I have been woodworking for about 20 years. I had built a very nice shop with high quality tools. Traditional american shop. Cabinet saw, separate jointer, planer, band saw, etc… All really nice top of the the line tools. A few years ago I had some personal issues that forced me to sell all my major equipment. The stationary tools mostly. Anyway, the good news is I have recovered and now am able to rebuild my shop. On to the question….

I have pretty much decided I want to go with a Euro slider. Change my work flow and methods. A saw/shaper combo to be exact. And a separate J/P combo too. My concern is “will they fit.” My shop is basically a 2 car garage (19.5 ft deep, 22 ft wide). But I do have the advantage that I have a tandem space. So roughly half the width goes another 18 ft or so deep. Its basically a L shape.

I know the units will fit, but the question is will I be left with room to work? I am wondering if anybody went through this and regrets the set up. Is it too tight, difficult to work around the machines? I have my work bench to think of too. Then my DC, drill press.

The slider i want to get it 110” so I can cut 4×8 sheets. So this makes the decision tougher. A shorter slider would help but i fear i will regret that decision. The J/P is 16”

On a different note to those who have this experience, do you regret the switch to euro machines? Was it worth it. Its a large cost increase to consider as well as the work flow change and space issue. Any words of wisdom would be appreciated. I am about to send my order confirmation through any day. There is still time for me not to go into the light!!


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drcoelho

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#1 posted 01-28-2017 09:08 AM

I have a 20’x20’ shop and I went with Felder CF 741 S. I absolutely am happy with my decision. The combination machine is the center of activity all other tools are mobile and I do have to carefully think through my workflow, but having such a fine machine and all the functionality, accuracy, ease of use, and superior safety has been a home run for me. I can do full 4’x8’ sheet cuts in long or short dimensions, but the slider barely fits..goes within inches of the wall, but I did get it setup to work with full sheet.

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AnthonyJ

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#2 posted 01-28-2017 11:25 AM

Thanks for the reply,
I considered the combo machine but decided to go with separates (saw/shaper and j/p) cause I do have a little more space having a tandem garage. What size out rigger did you get, and what with rip capacity? I think I’ll be fine with 110 inch slider, but I’m worried about the machine width and being able to fit my workbench. I have a fairly large workbench which I love. Having adequate space around the bench is important to me. I would prefer to not be pushed up against the wall if possible. How do you handle your workbench? Also just out of curiosity what do you do for dust collection? I need to get the system and would prefer something as small as possible that does the job. When I say small I mean I’m not interested in running tons of ductwork all over the shop so the dust collector will be close to the machine. Thanks so much for your reply much appreciated

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SweetTea

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#3 posted 01-28-2017 11:29 AM

I have never used a sliding table saw. I don’t see the point in paying the extra money for one. If I were you, I would look for a used 3HP-5HP cabinet saw on Craigslist and start saving up to build a dedicated shop either in your back yard or on a separate piece of property somewhere else. If you are doing enough work to need a $5,000+ sliding cabinet saw then I would imagine that a full sized shop would be a more worthy investment. I am not sure where you live, but I am renting a 40ft by100ft shop for $300 per month, but I plan to build a 40ft by 60ft sometime next year. For a 40ft by 60ft in my area with insulation, and heating it will cost me about $10,000.

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#4 posted 01-28-2017 11:45 AM

Hey Anthony, glad to hear of your recovery, praise the Lord for His mercy and kindness. As for room, I hear guys saying all the time about only having a 2 car garage and how they wonder if they can fit this or that into it. It comes down to, “where there is a will, there is a way”. In my “shop”, which happens to be a 2 car garage to other people, lol… There are 2 bandsaws, one 16” Laguna, the other a 14” Delta, both on wheels. I have 3 professional drawer units, 2 are 10 drawers and a center shelf bay with 2” maple top. There are 2 wood lathes, one a 12” 400 pound and one a 12” for small projects, weighing in at 200 pounds both stationary. I have my Unisaw and a 17” swing Delta drill press, plus enough stock for whatever I feel like building. In the center I have my workbench 8 feet long, tail and front vises. My 1920”s 6” jointer which weighs in at over 225lbs, my shop 36” floor fan, and my 13” thickness planer on a mobile base. Standing shelves for supplies, and 2 overhead dust systems, and the second refrigerator. There is plenty of room in a 2 car garage, you just need to be able to lay it out properly. Make some dust, have fun, Clarkie. BTW, I have worked out of this shop for over 22 years now, before this I had a 2000 sq ft shop.

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Redoak49

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#5 posted 01-28-2017 01:49 PM

Glad to hear you are able to get a shop together again.

A number of years ago, I looked at the slider table saws. Eventually, I decided against them due to the space. For me, the issue really comes down to how you break down a sheet of plywood. I have a cabinet saw but do not break down plywood on it. It just takes up too much space no matter if you have a cabinet saw or slider. Secondly, it is too difficult for me to lift the full sheet on a saw.

A slider is great for many things but requires a lot of space.

I went with a Festool track saw and have been extremely pleased with it. I can lay a sheet of plywood on a 2” Styrofoam sheet and break it down.

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JackDuren

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#6 posted 01-28-2017 02:02 PM

Don’t compress yourself with too much equipment. Depending on what your building depends on what you will really need. I figure 1/4 of my shop for a table saw and no more..

a full stroke slider would be out of the question. I tried to make a deal on a SC2 which is as big as I would go in my two car garage

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EricTwice

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#7 posted 01-28-2017 02:06 PM

The flat panel saws(euro sliders) that I am familiar with are big. The one I work with has a 10’ sliding bed with a 12’ foot outrigger and is 5’ on the right side of the blade. The machine itself requires a minimum space of 17’x22’ and then some added space to get around it.

I would recommend you consider an upright panel saw for breaking up sheet goods.

-- nice recovery, They should pay extra for that mistake, Eric E.

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Loren

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#8 posted 01-28-2017 02:12 PM

If all you want to do is make flakeboard cabinets
you’ll be ok on the space. There are guys that
get a 9’ slider and an edgebander into a 2 car
garage.

If however you want to have bandsaw, mortiser,
a conventional workbench, storage etc, then
you’re looking at trouble.

I had a short-stroke slider, with the crosscut
fence on the setup was 9’ wide. I sold it and
replaced it with a vintage variety saw with
a sliding carriage. It’s much more compact
and I have a wall saw and a track saw for breaking
down sheet goods.

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JackDuren

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#9 posted 01-28-2017 05:00 PM

How did “flakeboard” get into the subject? A real edge bander requires as much space as a full slider…..

You can use a regular table saw to break down sheet goods. Track saw not required….

My garage is 736sqft…

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drcoelho

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#10 posted 02-02-2017 08:26 AM

My Felder CF 741 S has sliding table with 2500mm cutting length, and the outrigger with 2600mm cutting length so I can handle 4×8 sheet in either orientation. For the workbench, I went with a Barth 500V, which can roll around, has pneumatic height adjustment, and has vacuum for work piece hold…I can use this for infeed, outfeed, moving heaving material around, set it low for glueing, etc….and what I found to be really useful is I can lower it enough such that the sliding table floats above it and thus the work table becomes non-issue in terms of space usage. For dust collection, I have a Felder RL160 which I really love (setup in separate room) with NordFab ducting (very very nice, easy to change, etc).

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