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bennesh1

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01-19-2017 10:41 PM

Topic tags/keywords: pine walnut cherry oak question

I’m planning to build a dining table bench to match my Mother-In-Laws table (first link). What wood would you suggest for this and what finish? A friend suggested Maple and finish using a dye, but I’m not so sure given the trouble and experimentation everyone talks about with Maple on this site. I’m not committed to anything yet as I don’t have anything on hand. Also, I’m in the NC area if that helps and have all the tools I need to surface rough cut material. I’m not looking for anything exotic or expensive, just something I can match up that will hold up well as a bench. The second link is a pic I will model the bench after. Thanks in advance for your help!!

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/zq4M8zcmLJdvigItWxUtgVE69BGOqQkPkedt7KBftA6
https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/zmX1XfJEaHeSZg6V2qP0pECAgZmRMMnxXcsEUiOYOyy


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#1 posted 01-20-2017 04:19 AM

You are going to be using a fairly dark stain, so the underlying wood doesn’t matter so much as long as you pick something with tight pores (I.e., not oak or ash). Maple is usually a good choice, but it is notorious for its blotching. To get an even stain, you need to use some kind of sealer (perhaps Charles Neil’s blotch control product). Personally, I’d use beech. Doesn’t blotch like maple, and you’d be hard pressed to tell the difference under a dark stain. And around here, also a bit less money.

-- Mark Kornell, Kornell Wood Design

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#2 posted 01-20-2017 04:40 AM

If your in NC, look up Steve Walls lumber co. and get some nice Walnut any size you need.

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#3 posted 01-20-2017 03:01 PM



If your in NC, look up Steve Walls lumber co. and get some nice Walnut any size you need.

- papadan


Yes, I am only about 40 minutes from Steve Wall Lumber and use them often.

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#4 posted 01-20-2017 03:15 PM



You are going to be using a fairly dark stain, so the underlying wood doesn t matter so much as long as you pick something with tight pores (I.e., not oak or ash). Maple is usually a good choice, but it is notorious for its blotching. To get an even stain, you need to use some kind of sealer (perhaps Charles Neil s blotch control product). Personally, I d use beech. Doesn t blotch like maple, and you d be hard pressed to tell the difference under a dark stain. And around here, also a bit less money.

- Mark Kornell

Thanks for the feedback Mark. That’s the same advice I’ve received from friends but I started second guessing Maple after reading of all the staining issues. I will probably go with Maple due to the price difference and plan on using a conditioner before stain or dye.

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#5 posted 01-20-2017 04:29 PM

That table is walnut, if you want the bench to match use walnut. Dying maple will not look look like walnut no matter how good your process, and is really going to be an enormous amount of work when you could avoid all that by using the right wood.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#6 posted 01-20-2017 10:51 PM

I would suggest getting some sample pieces of wood of different species, and a few stains or dyes to try and match before purchasing a quantity of wood for the build. When you get the match you are looking for, then make your wood purchase.

-- Paul, Las Vegas

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#7 posted 01-21-2017 02:12 AM



That table is walnut, if you want the bench to match use walnut. Dying maple will not look look like walnut no matter how good your process, and is really going to be an enormous amount of work when you could avoid all that by using the right wood.

- bondogaposis

Sorry, Bondo, that table is not walnut. If you zoom in, there are a couple of small areas that are scuffed through the finish and show a lighter color wood underneath.

-- Mark Kornell, Kornell Wood Design

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#8 posted 01-21-2017 03:26 AM

the top looks like walnut to me and the base looks like it is painted brown

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#9 posted 01-24-2017 12:23 AM

Does this look like mahogany? Also I noticed the photos I linked to are much lower quality than the originals. How can I post the higher quality ones here?

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#10 posted 02-14-2017 03:00 PM

The grain pattern and wood tone is consistent with walnut. Walnut commonly has lighter tone areas so that is not a given.

I suggest match the bench to the base rather than the top in which case maple would probably work fine.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#11 posted 02-14-2017 06:50 PM

So I’ve decided on Maple and have made the legs and aprons. I’ve continued to do some reading on using dye on Maple. I will try to use a dewaxed shellac (zinnser brand I think) thinned 50/50 as a wood conditioner/sealer, sand, then spray on some Transtint (red mahogany I think). Once I get the color I like (multiple coats of the dye I’m sure) should I spray some of the Shellac as a final top coat or go with a polyurethane?

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