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Forum topic by Hylofarms posted 01-18-2017 08:48 PM 1488 views 1 time favorited 26 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Hylofarms

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01-18-2017 08:48 PM

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw

So I’ll start of by saying YES I’ve searched and read up on this and old posts/topics. Ok, now to get to the topic at hand. I’m looking for a new table saw. what I am debating about getting the 1.75 horsepower Delta contractor saw, the grizzly 2 horsepower hybrid g0771 for the Laguna fusion. Yes I know that the prices are not extremely close to one another. The reason for those choices is that I have 120 volts in my garage now but when the ground gets warmer and I can dig a trench I’ll be adding 100 amps out there for my welders and machinery. But for right now I need 120 that I can change the wiring over this spring or summer. If anybody else has another idea on Strictly 220 / 240 volt units I’m all ears. That means I’ll just wait until I get the power to buy it. I just bought a house and I’m looking to build my dining room table a new bed and some other furniture with it is so I really don’t want to wait. I’ve been leaning towards the Laguna fusion

-- If it was easy everybody would do it. But then if it was so easy, would it even be worth doing?


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WhyMe

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#1 posted 01-18-2017 09:09 PM

120V is fine for table saws in the 2HP or less range. If you are wanting 3HP or better then 240V is what you’ll need. What do you feel you need?

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#2 posted 01-18-2017 09:12 PM

I have a delta and not a fan…but the laguna and the hybrid are the two Im looking at personally as well!

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#3 posted 01-18-2017 09:13 PM

The Grizzly G1023RL is in the same price range as the Laguna Fusion, but is a much more substantial saw under the hood (and above). It’s a full step up in class…like going from a Chevy S10 to a Silverado 3500. It does require 220v, but is the most saw in that price range, and is worth the wait IMHO. It will not only have nearly twice the power, but the underpinnings are a lot more robust, and it has a better fence. You can easily extend the rip capacity of the G1023RL to 36”.




If you can’t wait, or don’t want to spend that much, the G0771Z looks to be a good value for home shop saw. It has similar underpinnings and cabinet mounted trunnions as the Fusion, and a single piece fence rail vs the two-piece on the Fusion.

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buckbuster31

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#4 posted 01-18-2017 09:27 PM

I noticed the grizzly you just mentioned is only 14 amp but the polar bear hybrid is 16…. is this due to being a 240 vs 120? would the polar bear hybrid technically be 8 amp at 240?

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#5 posted 01-19-2017 03:29 AM

If there is power already going to the garage…is there some reason a 240 volt circuit couldn’t be in put in now? From the trenching comment, i’m guessing it is a detached building, if so then the next guess would be that power from the house feeds a panel in the garage. One of the advantages of 240 circuit is the reduction amperage (power consumption is roughly the same, but twice the voltage =half the amps). So…if there is space in the box, you might be able to add the 240 now and kick up to a larger panel later. Be worth calling an electrician and buying one saw instead of one today and another later—which it sounds like you’re prepared to do.
earl

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#6 posted 01-19-2017 03:50 AM

Yes I’m fully aware of the amperage with different voltage’s and capabilities of the motors they power. S as far as the power in the garage the original owner put 1 feed of Romex in a 3/4 Conduit out here, yes it’s a detached garage like I said I will be upgrading 200 amp service in the house and branching off 100 amps to the garage. Beside your table saw I will have my Mig and TIG welders hooked up along with my two stage air compressor. The only reason I was looking at those is because I can change the internal wiring to accommodate 220 / 240. If I were to wait I wouldn’t even consider the smaller voltage table saw. As far as the money’s concerned I don’t mind spending the money for a quality product you get what you pay for.

-- If it was easy everybody would do it. But then if it was so easy, would it even be worth doing?

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isotope

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#7 posted 01-19-2017 04:38 PM

Running a 1.5hp motor on 2220/240V instead of 110/120V doesn’t really change much (unless your wiring is inadequate). So, the question is more along the lines of do you want a 1.5hp saw or a 3hp saw? To get you through the winter until you get your wiring sorted out, you could pick-up an inexpensive contractor saw off CL.

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Hylofarms

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#8 posted 01-19-2017 06:05 PM

I’ve been searching on CL. I was thinking the same thing. How are the Steel City table saws they have a 3 horsepower it doesn’t look too bad but I’ve only heard about them on the forums I don’t know anybody that has one. There’s a guy at work that is trying to get me to buy his teal in color unisaw for $600. How about those two

-- If it was easy everybody would do it. But then if it was so easy, would it even be worth doing?

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#9 posted 01-19-2017 06:13 PM

Steel City is defunct, but some of them were pretty decent saws.

The Unisaw is a great saw. Teal color makes me think someone painted it….AFAIK Delta or Rockwell has always been gray. The value really depends on the condition, age, fence, wings, motor hp, extras, etc. $600 could be a great deal, could be not so much….need more detail to know.

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#10 posted 01-20-2017 01:25 AM

Have you thought of pulling out the Romex and replacing that with a couple of more circuits. There is a ton of space in a piece of 3/4. That could buy you some time till the ground thaws and you can do a new service..

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#11 posted 01-20-2017 01:46 AM

I bought a 1023RLW in Dec 2012. No problems. It just purrs along. I have built a lot of cabinets and many other projects. The saw cuts everything I ask it to.

We have been in our house since 1987 (mortgage free now). Our dryer is a gas unit so I used the 30 amp circuit for my saw. :-)

I am just a retired guy that loves woodworking. No doubt, this saw will outlast me and maybe the next owner.

I followed knotscott’s instructions and re-positioned my fence rails to the right. The picture shows about 37 inches rip width to the right of the blade. Since my dust collector sits adjacent to the saw, there was no room for wider rails.

I also bought a mobile base so I could move the saw if needed, but it sits in the same spot and has never moved that I can tell! :-)

Hope this helps.
Mike

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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Hylofarms

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#12 posted 01-20-2017 05:27 PM

Nice saw and thanks for the pics. As far as the Romex in the 3/4 I will not remove it to put in a couple more circuits for the time being. If I do the job I want to do it right and I want to do it once. Also I want to be using that Romex for the outside light on my garage in a 3-way switch so I can turn it on from in the house. I’ll be putting 3 two inch conduits in alongside the three quarter. The first one will be the power supply to the garage, second one will be and Airline coming from my compressor giving a feed down into the basement and a coax cable for television in the shop. The third one will be empty and available for future ideas. In a way I’m still leaning towards the grizzly 0771 and adding a Delta fence on it. If I do not go that route I will be waiting until I get the sub panel out in the garage. I have a small Ridgid contractor saw with a mobile / folding base stand so that might have to do for the time being. If I don’t upgrade to the 0771 or wait for the 100 amps. That sounds good but it doesn’t help that I’m extremely indecisive.

-- If it was easy everybody would do it. But then if it was so easy, would it even be worth doing?

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#13 posted 01-20-2017 05:35 PM

If you get the newer G0771”Z”, you shouldn’t need to upgrade the fence. You could, but that stock fence on the Z should be ok.

G0771Z:

G0771:

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#14 posted 01-20-2017 08:43 PM

It looks like the back rail is shorter. If I happen to add a router extension on there would that be affected?

-- If it was easy everybody would do it. But then if it was so easy, would it even be worth doing?

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knotscott

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#15 posted 01-20-2017 10:27 PM


It looks like the back rail is shorter. If I happen to add a router extension on there would that be affected?

- Hylofarms

It depends on how big and how you mount the router extension….there are lots of way to approach it, and lots of ways to overcome it if its an obstacle.

Here’s two examples of the same principle that would work:

Here’s another approach:

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