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Forum topic by Lt_scout posted 01-18-2017 06:56 PM 1923 views 0 times favorited 20 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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01-18-2017 06:56 PM

Hi guys,

I’m looking to upgrade from my Ridgid job site saw to a cabinet saw and I’m liking the:

Stallion 1.5 Hp 10” Cabinet Saw W/30” Deluxe Fence 110V

Just wondering if I’m missing out going with this 110V unit, I could easily install a 220V outlet but I’m more liking the price at $1450 at Canadian Woodworker. The fence seems pretty solid.

I could get into a King or Magnum (KMS Tools) for a 2 HP at same price but it seems the King is lacking slightly on table finish and reports of blade alignment issues after height adjustment.

Anyhow, getting off track… I’m just a hobby woodworker doing small projects, I know this saw is probably more saw than I need but I like the idea of a saw I can grow into, build some jigs for etc.

Any issues with my thought process here?

-- When you know you can do more with less, you will require less to do more.


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#1 posted 01-18-2017 09:37 PM

I’m alot less familiar with the Canadian market, but the Stallion looks to be pretty similar to the Craftex CX208, which offers a 2hp motor. Possibly even from the same factory. I do like the black paint job on the Stallion, but once the allure wears off, an extra 33% HP won’t hurt.


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#2 posted 01-19-2017 03:53 AM

For the money you could go with Grizzly1023 which is well regarded here. I think they ship to canada. Not sure about import duties
But you Stallion look not bad here http://thewoodworkersnews.com/2015/05/reviewed-cwi-stallion-1-5-hp-10″-cabinet-saw-model-cwi-t1002-w30″-deluxe-fence/

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#3 posted 01-19-2017 03:14 PM

Thanks guys, I noticed most of these lighter cabinet saws appear to be made very similar. There parts are all made in Taiwan so each company is tweaking their brands with little changes here and there. Much like the band saw market. Grizzly, Delta, Shopfox, they all look the same, just different colors, badges and finishing quality.

-- When you know you can do more with less, you will require less to do more.

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#4 posted 03-05-2017 04:19 PM

I’m looking at the same. The Stallion has some good reviews but I think I’d prefer 2hp. According to Busy Bee’s website the table on the CC208 is only 27” x 32”. I thought it might be a typo but it’s stated in two places. That seems tiny for this kind of saw. I can’t find any reviews of the Magnum but it looks exactly like the General 50-200 and on the KMS website even had the same product number. I was thinking about a Grizzly but the shipping plus customs may add a few hundred bucks compared to something I can just pick up at a store here in Calgary.

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#5 posted 03-05-2017 04:32 PM

The fence on the craftex appears to be the same fence as the shop fox aluma classic, which is a very capable fence. I’ve had it for 10 years.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#6 posted 03-05-2017 04:34 PM

According to Busy Bee’s website the table on he CC208 is only 27” x 32”. I thought it might be a typo but it’s stated in two places. That seems tiny for this kind of saw.
- Goodsh

Then I guess you would consider the Unisaw table a bit small at 20” wide by 27” deep.

Cheers,
Brad

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#7 posted 03-05-2017 04:45 PM

CWI makes their Stallion in 2HP and 3HP but they’re more money and you’ll need 220V. The 1.5HP is intended for people that want to run on 110V. I could have installed 220V and went with another make but I was sold on the price point and fence quality of the Stallion, a good fence is another $400 if you want to upgrade, I didn’t want to do that. The Magnum and General International’s fence were a bit cheap looking and felt not as good. Also the Magnum’s hight adjustment crank took 3 turns to every 1 turn of the Stallion to adjust height. I’m just a hobby wood worker so I thought the 1.5HP would fine and it has been great, Ive never slowed the blade down. I don’t see myself cutting 4×4 post, stock thicker than a couple inches or logs etc.

-- When you know you can do more with less, you will require less to do more.

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#8 posted 03-05-2017 05:49 PM


I m looking at the same. The Stallion has some good reviews but I think I d prefer 2hp. According to Busy Bee s website the table on the CC208 is only 27” x 32”. I thought it might be a typo but it s stated in two places. That seems tiny for this kind of saw. I can t find any reviews of the Magnum but it looks exactly like the General 50-200 and on the KMS website even had the same product number. I was thinking about a Grizzly but the shipping plus customs may add a few hundred bucks compared to something I can just pick up at a store here in Calgary.

- Goodsh

Most of these types of saws generally have a main table that’s 27” deep x 20”, plus the width of whatever extension wings are added….usually 10-12” each for an overall width of 40”- 44”. Can’t help but wonder if the 32” is a misprint. You could call the dealer and ask them to measure the overall width of the table and wings.

Also, Craftex and Grizzly are often pretty similar, but Craftex is sold directly in Canada so no customs fees.

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#9 posted 03-05-2017 07:07 PM

Brad, my message wasn’t clear. Their website actually says the 32” width is the entire table including wings. Most hybrids and cabinets are 40 or 44” with the wings. They’re closed today. It I’m going to call tomorrow. Haven’t found any reviews on it yet.

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#10 posted 03-05-2017 07:20 PM

Lt_scout, glad to hear you’re happy with the Stallion. It does seem a bit better of a saw overall other than the smaller motor and it has a few very good reviews. I have a poor craftsman job site saw right now and it was okay at first but now has trouble with one inch thick maple now so I’ve been hesitant not to get extra hp.

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#11 posted 03-05-2017 07:30 PM

Right on Goodsh, I had a 3/4 HP Ridgid job site saw, and it was fine for power, it was the fence, controls and lack of table surface that bugged me most. So I wasnt overly concerned about HP with the Stallion. It cuts 1” maple plywood as easy as 1/8” door skin. She’s a lovely saw but one never knows what projects might require that bigger motor. I had the same internal debate when buying my dirtbike, chainsaw, RV, computer, garage door opener… =)

-- When you know you can do more with less, you will require less to do more.

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#12 posted 03-05-2017 08:03 PM

Ah yes, don’t get me started…

My craftsman job site saw is advertised as a 15 amp and 3hp which I think has to be a gross exaggeration or number game of some kind. It was a gift and was okay to get me introduced to the hobby but its time has been up for a while.

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#13 posted 03-05-2017 08:15 PM



Ah yes, don t get me started…

My craftsman job site saw is advertised as a 15 amp and 3hp which I think has to be a gross exaggeration or number game of some kind. It was a gift and was okay to get me introduced to the hobby but its time has been up for a while.

- Goodsh

LOL…..if you read the fine print, it’ll state that 3hp is achieved only when struck by lightning, and only for that brief moment. ;-)

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#14 posted 03-05-2017 08:42 PM

Struck by lightning! Lol. Better be fast.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#15 posted 03-05-2017 08:43 PM



Ah yes, don t get me started…

My craftsman job site saw is advertised as a 15 amp and 3hp which I think has to be a gross exaggeration or number game of some kind. It was a gift and was okay to get me introduced to the hobby but its time has been up for a while.

- Goodsh


They probably deliberately underfeed the horses they use to test the horse power of the saw. Should be cited for animal cruelty.

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