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richgreer

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09-01-2010 09:20 PM

I’ve located a plane that is, allegedly, a new Stanley No. 4 Smoothing plane. Here it is – -

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220663108023&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_2895wt_1139

I also looked up a Stanley No. 4 smoothing plane at another website and it looks quite different – -

http://www.stanleytools.com/default.asp?CATEGORY=PLANES&TYPE=PRODUCT&PARTNUMBER=12-136&SDesc=No%2E+4+Smoothing+Bench+Plane

It looks to me like the ebay plane has been mis-labeled and/or mis-represented.

I’m not very familiar with hand planes. Does anyone have some insight to share?

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.


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Richard Dunlap

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#1 posted 09-01-2010 09:39 PM

The first one is the current #4 plane based on the Bailey design. Although it is based on the same design, it is not near the quality of the older, pre- 1950 or so, planes and in my opinion not worth buying. The older, ie. good, ones are plentifull on e-bay for around the same money as the new one.

The second one is Stanley’s newest style plane. They have decided that they wanted to get back into the premium plane business and have introduced a new line, capitalizing on the old “Sweetheart” name. I do not have any experience with these new planes.

Richard

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#2 posted 09-01-2010 09:57 PM

rich, I’m not an expert, but I have bought a good many planes on Ebay. The first one looks like a Stanley Plane but it looks like a recent one. An older one has a much better grinding job. Also, the logo looks a little different to the ones they made a few decades ago. They say that this is a new plane. It’s probably just a few years old. I suppose that the 2nd is their new ones. I had heard that they were going to start making them again but I wouldn’t think that they are too good anymore. I have a couple of those only a little older – back when they were better planes. I’ll try to take a picture of mine and post it here.

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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#3 posted 09-01-2010 10:05 PM

The plane on ebay is either this one (the Bailey version)
http://www.stanleytools.com/default.asp?CATEGORY=PLANES&TYPE=PRODUCT&PARTNUMBER=12-904&SDesc=9-3%2F4%26%2334%3B+Bailey%26%23174%3B+Bench+Plane
or the non-Bailey
http://www.stanleytools.com/default.asp?CATEGORY=PLANES&TYPE=PRODUCT&PARTNUMBER=12-204&SDesc=No.+4+Smoothing+Bench+Plane

The second link you provided was to the new line of Sweetheart planes.

The starting price on the ebay plane seems a little much as it only saves you ~$10 off what you could get your own new one for. If you wanted one in the Bailey style you’d be better off looking for an old one. The older number 4’s are very common pretty easy to find and often sell for the same as the one you are looking at now on ebay. I have a pre-war no 4 that I picked up at an antique store for $35. It is a great plane.

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docholladay

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#4 posted 09-02-2010 11:19 AM

Rich,

Richard’s comments are right on. For my money, the old pre-WWII planes are by far the most desirable (plus you can pick them up pretty cheap – even in pretty good condition). You can pick up an old No. 4 for less than $50 pretty easy and I have bought them for less than $20 that are in usable condition with a bit of cleaning and tuning (which, by the way, you probably would have to do to a new plane anyway). Get an old one, do a little research on how to tune it, spend a couple hours sharpening the iron and getting it ready to use an “Bob’s your uncle.” You’ll be slicing off those see through shavings in no time at all.

-- Hey, woodworking ain't brain surgery. Just do something and keep trying till you get it. Doc

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