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01-14-2017 02:57 AM

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw

Hello, Anybody getting rid of a decent contractor saw in Central Ohio?
Im in the market for a used saw, prefer a Jet, Delta or Powermatic.
Willing to consider a fixer-upper but no antiques please.
Im moving up from a small direct drive Delta.
Thanks!!!!!!

-- Ed, Lewis Center OH


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#1 posted 01-14-2017 03:16 AM

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#2 posted 01-14-2017 01:32 PM

Hey Ed,
Sent you a PM (private message) with a potential lead in your area.
Good luck,
earl

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#3 posted 01-14-2017 02:38 PM

There’s always a bunch of saws around Columbus for sale. If you’d wanna come down into chillicothe there’s a guy on Craigslist that has a old 113 (I think that’s what it is ) for a $100

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#4 posted 01-14-2017 02:40 PM

http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/5947918480.html

Here’s the one in Chillicothe
http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/5950797177.html

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#5 posted 01-14-2017 02:46 PM

I think so some sears/k Marts r closing out n Kingston and Lancaster. U might try looking there for a new one

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#6 posted 01-14-2017 03:19 PM

Thanks for the quick responses so far! Keep em coming.

I comb the CL adds daily and right now we have an abundance of Craftsman and 1 GI. I was hoping somebody might be lurking that’s ready to upgrade to a cabinet saw but hadn’t posted anything yet

The GI worries me from what I’ve read on this site.

I’ve always shied away from Craftsman. My impression is they have their share of unique features and quirks. But I also understand there are some good years and models to buy. Im just not educated enough to run out and buy one. Anybody care to give me a quick lesson on their contractor saws? For instance whats the story on a “113”?

Greenacres2 – Thanks for the message, I reached out to him. We’ll see what happens.

Jcamp – funny you mention Sears and Kmarts closing, I just spoke with my sister yesterday about this. She was having dinner in Chillicothe with her sons and they were discussing this. I had the same idea.

-- Ed, Lewis Center OH

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#7 posted 01-14-2017 03:43 PM

Better to actually compare the features and design than the brand, because most came from the same handful of factories. The bolt-ons like the fence, wings, motors, stands, switches, guards, etc., are often the biggest differences. Delta and the early Ridgids were the last US made contractor saws I know of…..all others moved to Taiwan, then China. Full size contractor saws all have tables ~27” deep x 20”wide…the extension wings vary, but most can be made to fit from one full size contractor saw to the next. Some were right tilt, some left tilt…motors are largely interchangeable if the rotation and size are correct. Most aftermarket fences can be made to fit just about any of them. Most have standard 3/4” miter slots including the Cman and Ridgids of this style. All are in the range of 1hp to 2hp, with most near 1.5hp. Many can run on either 110v or 220v. They all have potential….alignment, setup, belt/pulleys, fence, and blade selection are the bigger factors that influence performance.

The General International 50-185 (left tilt) and 50-175 (right tilt) are good solid Taiwanese contractor saws with a great fence, and solid cast wings. Very comparable to a Jet or PM of the same era, and likely made in the same factory…all my by Mao Shan AFAIK. Grizzly and Bridgewood had some similar models. All copies of the Delta design.

The Emerson (113) and TTI/Ryobi (315) made contractror saws were pretty much the same as the Ridgids, which were also made by Emerson (2412, 2424, 3612) or TTI/Ryobi (3650/3660). Sears dropped Emerson in favor of TTI/Ryobi in 1997, and introduced the “315” series. Right after Ridgid introduced the 2412 by Emerson. In 2004 Ridgid dropped Emerson for Ryobi and introduced the 3650. Pick a color…nearly identical saws under the hood. The earlier Emerson steel fences were lame, but later aluminum XR2424/Exacti-rip/Aligna-rip fences were decent. Most parts are directly interchangeable.

When the price and features are right, anyone of them could be setup to for good service. Hybrids and cabinet saws have the advantage of an inboard motor location, and often some extra mass. Some of the higher end hybrids actually have lighter duty cabinet mounted trunnions that are easier to reach and align, but not as robust as the big ones found on an industrial cabinet saw.

Table saws explained – http://lumberjocks.com/knotscott/blog/32154

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#8 posted 01-14-2017 04:12 PM

Thank You Knottscott!!

So,
1. I think I should give the GI another look, checking the model #
2. An older CM 113 sounds like a good find?

-- Ed, Lewis Center OH

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#9 posted 01-14-2017 04:23 PM


Thank You Knottscott!!

So,
1. I think I should give the GI another look, checking the model #
2. An older CM 113 sounds like a good find?

- EB77

Yes and yes. The 113s are more likely to have that lame steel fence, but it does work, and can be upgraded down the road….pay less for a saw with that fence than one of the Aligna-rip types. Watch out for flex drive and direct drive 113s…they exist. The direct drives often say “direct drive” or “motorized”. Many of the direct drives have a ribbed aluminum top, but not all. The flex drives have big cable coming off the motor.

lame fence:

better fence:

another tip – see the motor pic below, and note that it has two capacitor cans. They claim an extra 1/2hp for that motor verses the single can versions with the same amp rating. Sometimes they slap a “3hp” sticker on the front of those saws, but that’s bogus…always check the motor plate for the truer rating.

single cap Craftsman motor:

Here’s a GI 50-175 M1 with their General T-fence:

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#10 posted 01-14-2017 04:46 PM

You might also take a look at irs auctions. You may luck up and get a good heavy saw for the same money.

helluvawreck aka Charles
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#11 posted 01-14-2017 06:04 PM

http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/5957804988.html

This is very likely way more saw than u want but if u got a bunch of money then it would b the last saw you’d probably ever need

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#12 posted 01-16-2017 05:46 PM

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