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Judge

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08-27-2010 01:12 AM

Topic tags/keywords: festool dust extractor question

Hello all,

I’m heavily considering purchasing a plunge track saw (Makita’s), and I’m thinking about purchasing a festool dust extractor (the mini). Now I’m all into the whole systainer approach, as well as the quality.

The question is: Is the dust extractor worth the price? Is the midi worth the additional $50?

All opinions welcome!

Thanks

Judge


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jusfine

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#1 posted 08-27-2010 01:18 AM

Yesterday I stopped in at the dealer’s thinking the midi was the one I may buy, came home with the CT33…

If it’s only another $50.00, I would say yes.

-- Randy "You are judged as much by the questions you ask as the answers you give..."

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Dan Lyke

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#2 posted 08-27-2010 05:26 PM

I have the CT22 and love it. If I’m reading the web page about the more recent tools (I think they just had the 33, the 22 and the Mini when I bought), the Midi’s more the size of the 22, but with the HEPA filters and better wet capabillities of the Mini? If so, get it.

Cheap tools was a discussion topic with my wife last night, and I realized that I now have to justify non-Festool tools much more stringently: If I end up complaining about the shortcomings of a tool in my shop, I am going to hear “You know, it would have been cheaper if you’d just bought the Festool version to begin with.”

-- Dan Lyke, Petaluma California, http://www.flutterby.net/User:DanLyke

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rhett

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#3 posted 08-27-2010 05:33 PM

I dont get too excited about a HEPA filter on a shop vac when I take into account all the other dust in the shop. Its not like I am cutting wood in a hospital. Ashop vac is a shop vac is a shop vac. JMHO

-- It's only wood.

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Domer

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#4 posted 08-27-2010 05:52 PM

I have the CT33 as well. It works great. I use it with both the TS55 , ROS and Domino there is no dust. You could use any of the tools in your kitchen and not worry about the dust.

I also use it on my band saw and router table. It does a good but not perfect job with them but that is a problem with the band saw and router table design not the Festool.

Be sure that the hose or an adapter fits the port on your track saw. I had to wrap some duct tape around an adapter to make it work. Not perfect as I said before but pretty good.

The comment about the shop vac is valid as well. It is a lot less expensive but I don’t think will do as good a job. But how much dust tolerance do you have? My wife authorized and also recommended it because of the no dust.

You might want to price the TS55 vs the Makita. It seems to me that the TS55 is virtually the same price as the DeWalt. I have not priced the Makita.

I can also relate to Dan, I am on my 4th table saw and band saw. I don’t know how many circular saws and routers. So I can testify that it is a lot less expensive to buy good tools the first time.

Domer

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Judge

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#5 posted 08-27-2010 06:00 PM

I went with the mini and makita tracksaw. I couldn’t justify the $50 for the extra 1+ gallon capactity (i’m willing to empty a little more frequently).

I looked it up and the mini and midi do not have HEPA filters, although there was a rumor some time ago about there being HEPA filters available for the mini and midis.

I went with the makita tracksaw for a couple of reasons. The makita has more power (12 amps instead of 10), is compatable with all of festools tracks (thus their accessories too), has a deeper cutting capacity (1/4 deeper), and takes a 6 1/2 (and the 6 1/4 blade) instead of just the 6 1/4.
The only downside to the makita is that it wasn’t a festool and does not have a riving knife.

I hope I won’t miss the lack of riving knife, but only time will tell.

BTW the makita was $125 cheaper than the Festool.(That little price point difference helped me convince the mrs. that it was a sound investment)

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Dan Lyke

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#6 posted 08-27-2010 06:10 PM

rhett, the place I’d like HEPA is sanding old paint. Other than that, yeah, it’s not that big a deal.

Interesting that the Mini and Midi don’t, I thought that was the draw. Hmmm…

-- Dan Lyke, Petaluma California, http://www.flutterby.net/User:DanLyke

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richgreer

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#7 posted 08-27-2010 07:38 PM

In my opinion, the dust extractor with the plunge saw is a “nice to have” but not essential. The dust extractor with a festool sander is a “have to have”.

There is a good looking midi on e-bay right now.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Festool-CT-Midi-Dust-Extractor-Vacuum-Cleaner-/140445539440?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b334dc70#ht_500wt_1154

I use the midi and like it very much. I don’t think the extra for the CT 22 is necessary.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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Chris

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#8 posted 08-27-2010 07:59 PM

Now I do own the CT22 and love using it with my tools. But, Fein makes an outstanding vac as well.

-- "Everything that is great and inspiring is created by the individual who labors in freedom" -- Albert Einstein

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Greedo

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#9 posted 08-27-2010 10:33 PM

i have the CT22 and it’s a verry good vac, i like it’s low profile so it fits under my bench.
but get ready to cough up big $ for their expensive bags and accesories. almost €10 a bag, not reusable. and €14 for a piece of rubber to adapt it to my tools…

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reggiek

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#10 posted 08-27-2010 11:24 PM

I have the CT22 also and it is excellent for sanding and small tools. They are not cheap…but they work and they work well….A shop vac is a shop vac for sure….they break easily (all plastic made in cheapland). I have found that I will burn up a cheap shop vac in a very short time (about 90 or so days – when their warranty is up – go figure?). Whereas I have had my festool for several years now without a wimper.

The bags are not cheap if you buy from festool – but they do have a reuseable one (not exactly cheap either) FT456737 long use reuseable bag for CT22 $192 – I reused my CT22 bags by cutting the bottom…emptying them out and then folding over and resealing them – this works several times. Now if you are industrious you can make your own reuseable bag from the filter bag replacements for the rocklers or jets (some as cheap as $10 if you search – just use your old bag as a model I have 3 of these now and they were cheap and easy to make (you can stitch them up on a machine (thanks to the better half) or hand…or use staples and duct tape for that matter.

You can also save on bags by using a dust deputy or another type of cyclone collector. I have one I am trying out (guy had that didn’t use) and will perhaps do a review on it’s viability with the festool after I see what it can do.

-- Woodworking.....My small slice of heaven!

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Judge

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#11 posted 08-28-2010 04:31 AM

Reggiek ~ thanks for the advice. I’ll be using your techniques for the dust bags (i’ll also try to employ my better half to sew a more permanent one)

Deke,

I pulled the trigger! I went with the CT Mini (for the portability, I’m hoping to get some trim carpentry jobs on the side).

I hope that I’m happy with the Makita Tracksaw.

I’ve been looking at all of festool’s products while plotting how much money I could sell my similiar tools (higher end, just they just suck with dust collection), and scrounge up the money for more festool stuff.

I’m eagerly anticipating the arrival of the mini (it comes tomorrow).

Thank you for your response.

Quick question

What accessories do I have to buy for the extractor?

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Canadian Woodworks

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#12 posted 08-28-2010 04:56 AM

Man you people make a good case

-- Paul Lemiski, Ontario Canada, Custom Wooden Rocking chairs and tables http://www.canadianwoodworks.com

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richgreer

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#13 posted 08-28-2010 07:57 PM

A CT-22 dust extractor on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/Festool-CT22E-Dust-Extractor-w-Hose-Garage-/180554003754?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a09db752a#ht_689wt_1139

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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