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Forum topic by jschmitz1949 posted 01-09-2017 04:23 AM 718 views 0 times favorited 4 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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jschmitz1949

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01-09-2017 04:23 AM

I’m looking to expand and upgrade my turning tools, and I’m wondering if anyone has experience with the things I’ve been looking into. The majority of my primary tools are Sorby, so that’s the starting point for improvements.

Does anyone have experience or knowledge of the ‘Mahoney’ gouges (any or all)? I’m intrigued by the specialty grinds to get better access and quicker results through using less repetition.

The other pieces I’m curious about are in the Stuart Batty lineup. I almost bought some of the skews and negative take scrapers a few years ago, but held off. It seems like his taper-lock never caught on, but I’m still intrigued. Any experienced users? How well do his negative-rakes perform? How is the sharpening and general use of them?

What other advanced and specialty tools are you guys/gals using?

Thanks in advance!


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LeeMills

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#1 posted 01-09-2017 01:05 PM

I do not have any experience with the Mahoney…but I did watch the video. Made by Henry Taylor the steel should be about the same as other Sheffield companies with like steel (Sorby, Hamlet, Crown, etc).
His does have special grinds for specific jobs. Can you reproduce that grind yourself when you re-sharpen?
If so you should be able to grind any make with a similar flute.

I believe the SB line went out of business a couple of years back but some tools may still be available from retailers. I did not hear of anyone continuing the line. If you have the handle will you be able to buy new tools when needed?
No year given but here is the auction data. http://www.rollerauction.com/auction/42409_StuartBattyEnterprisesSBToolsI.asp

-- We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

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Wildwood

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#2 posted 01-09-2017 05:06 PM

Mahoney tools made by Henry Taylor from KRYO steel. Have a 1/2” HT Kryo skew chisel about wore out and never saw any improvement over HSS. I would look at Thompson tools if want exotic steel tools.

http://thompsonlathetools.com/product-list/

I enjoyed reading SB theory on his negative rake scrappers when his site was up. Other turners use different angles to achieve the same results without the cost.

https://www.hiltonhandcraft.com/Articles/The%20Negative%20Rake%20Scraper.pdf

Just like Lee Mills think you can achieve the same results by re-grinding your own tools for lot less money. Plenty of videos online showing and explaining double bevels on bowl gouges if that’s the route want to take.

-- Bill

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LeeMills

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#3 posted 01-10-2017 12:25 AM

This is a pretty good comparison of different tool steel by Craft Supply.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcM6kStHhCw
All of mine are standard HSS except for one Thompson. I can’t tell any difference in my Sorby, Hamlet, Crown, or Hurricane.
I have heard lots of good thing about D-Way which used M42 which rates highest on the CS chart.
http://d-waytools.com/gouges/bowl-gouges/

-- We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

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GAwoodworker

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#4 posted 03-10-2017 08:45 PM

I do not own any of Mahoney’s tools, but if you are looking to upgrade I can say Carter and Sons or Thompson Tools. I own both and now they are the only ones I touch. The edge retention is incredible compared to my Sorby tools. I own another tool that is KYRO treated and it holds better than my Sorby tools but not nearly as well as the C&S or Thompsons. The price of these tools made me pace in circles for a few weeks before making a decision. I’m glad I got them. Almost makes turning more enjoyable. Trips to the grinder were dramatically reduced, you can get creative if you want to make your own handles, and customer service is unbeatable. Any other tool from here on will be one of those companies. If you do choose to buy the handles for the tool, they are exceptional quality and milled out of aluminum. Great for reducing any chatter during turning. Hope this helps…just my .02

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