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tomtee

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01-09-2017 01:46 AM

i need some advice on how to measure doors for a pantry i am building for a friend, i am new to woodworking so
i need all the help i can get, i don’t know how to measure for the doors, i want them to be a full overlay so i need to know if there is a certain formula for figuring out what size i need to make the doors. thanks tomtee


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#1 posted 01-09-2017 02:43 AM

Are you changing the hinges? Make sure you know what type of hinges you will use before building the doors because they vary in overlays and will depend on how big you should could make the doors, allowing what style are you going to do?

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#2 posted 01-09-2017 02:50 AM

Standard Blum hinges like a 1/2” overlay so your door is 1” larger in w & h than your opening.

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#3 posted 01-09-2017 05:10 PM

Tomtee,

I agree with EugdOT, the first step is to select the hinges that will be used. Since this is a pantry, I am guessing the doors may be large. Hinges have a load rating and therefore several hinges may be required to support the door and allow it to properly operate.

Once you have selected the hinge, manufacturers usually publish on-line instructions that provide enough information to allow you to design, build and mount the doors.

Rockler offers a guide to cabinet doors and hinges that may be worth a look…

http://www.rockler.com/how-to/understanding-hinges/

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#4 posted 01-09-2017 10:54 PM

thanks everyone for your advice, the pantry will be 66×30 built with 3/4inch plywood, getting the hinges first is
the way i should go, are the non mortise hinges easier to put in since i am very new to woodworking. i have seen some european hinges but they need to be recessed into the wood so i am a little hesitant to do that.
again thanks to all who gave advice. tomtee

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#5 posted 01-10-2017 12:29 AM

I would advise that you use solid wood as a face frame nit edge banding it will add strength to the cabinet, also if you use that you can use face Frame euro hinges, every easy to install, just make sure that the face frame is 3/4 thick, if you want a full overlay, make your face frame is 1” 1/4 wide then you can get the same in overlay for the face frame hinges, from rockler.
Also I would strongly recommend that either if you make the doors 66” long make sure you separate the panels into 2 per door with a rail. That way your door is more solid and won’t flex

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#6 posted 01-10-2017 12:41 AM

thank you EugdOT, that is some great advice, i had not though about adding a rail but that makes a lot of sense,
i looked at some Blum hinges and i am going to try the 1/2 inch overlay european hinge, i just have to buy a
35mm bit and a jig to drill the holes correctly, thanks again tomtee

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#7 posted 01-10-2017 02:36 AM

No jig needed, just bore 1-3/8 (35mm) at 13/16” in from the edge and use a self centering drill with the hinge as a template. Door side pilots with #6, frame side pilots with #8.

Use the soft close option and put felt pads on the door corners for silent self close.

M

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#8 posted 01-10-2017 02:49 AM

If you are unsure, home depot and lowe’s sell a plastic jig and a 35mm foster bit for about $10 in the hardware/hinge area, also you might want to pick up a self centering (vix bit) to drill the pilot holes for the hinges two screws to hold the hinges onto the doors.

You probably going to need 3-4 hinges per door depending how heavy they are going to. Since they are going to be 66 inches long

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