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Forum topic by Ron Ford posted 01-07-2017 10:14 PM 2501 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Ron Ford

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01-07-2017 10:14 PM

The new Nova DVR drill press looks like areal home run. One of my friends has one. He has had limited use of it so far, but is quite impressed.

Any other users/opinions out there on this one?

Thanks,

Ron

-- Once in awhile I make something really great. Most days I just make sawdust.


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MrUnix

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#1 posted 01-07-2017 10:18 PM

Looks like a nice piece of equipment, but I wouldn’t want one – mostly because of the ‘onboard computer’ and direct drive motor. Electronics will fail… not if, but when. And direct drive means that the motor shaft is taking the brunt of the abuse directly, instead of a separate spindle. On a regular drill press, motors and stepped pulleys are cheap and easy to fix (including motor and spindle bearings). Computers and proprietary motors, not so much. I’m sure others will disagree. YMMV.

Cheers,
Brad

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#2 posted 01-07-2017 10:40 PM

I had about 45 minutes to play with one at the dealer and it is simply the most impressive woodworking DP I have ever seen. The key for me is the bells and whistles are actually useful and true time savers. The electronics and DVR motor might normally make me reticent to be an early adopter but in this case Teknatools have been using the motor and “similar” electronics on their lathes for years and the failure rate seems quite reasonable from a consumer standpoint. The reality is not many are going to spend over $1500 on a drill press for a wood shop but it immediately went on my to-buy list for when I finish my new shop I am building.

The only things I didn’t like about it was the lack of keyless chuck which I will rectify right away and the table could be better for woodworking but again easy to fix. One other little nit was the round table insert, square or rectangular ones are much easier to make replacements for.

The power was amazing and the vibration was basically non-existant even over 3000 rpm.

If it weren’t for Teknatools long use of the DVR motor and associated electronics I would be more on the side of wait and see but as it is I am all in on this one as I see it as a quantum leap in usefulness.

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#3 posted 01-07-2017 11:30 PM

I have a better version of it.
I upgraded my ShopSmith to their new PowerPro headstock which is a DVR motor from Technatool. In drill press mode it does everything that the Nova does but puts the strain on the headstock spindle which is built to take all sorts of forces. .... plus I get the ShopSmith main table complete with fence and excellent clamping and setup options.
I also have mine on 220v so I get 2 Hp.
Of course this means I have a 2Hp DVR lathe as well.
I love the thing. It makes all the already good SS tools and attachments even better. Sadly the DIY version of the upgrade costs more than the Nova DP.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fibreglass trees. http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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#4 posted 01-07-2017 11:51 PM

About 8-9 years ago I bought the Delta 17-900 woodworkers drill press. Then about $700, now about $900. It comes with a woodworking table that includes T tracks and replaceable center insert, a larger table that normal, it is left/right, front to back adjustable for multi angled use. Nice light, very accurate laser center point. I do a lot of wood and metal work and the Delta is great at every task. No it is not DVR.

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#5 posted 01-08-2017 12:44 AM


In drill press mode it does everything that the Nova does but puts the strain on the headstock spindle which is built to take all sorts of forces. ....
- shipwright

Does it have automatic depth control and allow you to set the motor to start as soon as the quill is lowered? Those are two of the benefits that actually sold me on the Nova. I doubt the DP head is built to withstand any forces a mid-sized lathe is not, they are used for drilling and an out of balance wet bowl blank puts a lot more strain on bearings than a DP.

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#6 posted 01-08-2017 02:19 AM

Depth control is manual, as accurate as the operator is but not digital. The motor starts when you push the start button. I have no reason to need thes features and likely wouldn’t use them. The SS quill is massive and well mounted with good bearings. I wouldn’t expect the motor shaft on any drill press to be built that heavily. I could be wrong.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fibreglass trees. http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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#7 posted 01-08-2017 02:56 AM



Depth control is manual, as accurate as the operator is but not digital. The motor starts when you push the start button. I have no reason to need thes features and likely wouldn t use them.
- shipwright

I was just trying to figure out how they incorporated a lot of the features of the Nova because you said it did everything the Nova does, but apparently it does not.

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shipwright

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#8 posted 01-08-2017 03:16 AM

These are very minor points.
Not going to argue with you, sorry.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fibreglass trees. http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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#9 posted 01-08-2017 03:38 AM

Been awhile since watching the video but the features seemed to require too many button presses. I’ve used computerized cutters and for all that tech to be useful it has to be faster than manual.

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#10 posted 01-08-2017 04:09 AM



These are very minor points.
Not going to argue with you, sorry.

- shipwright

There is no need to argue, you said it does everything the Nova does and it does not. Upon a little more investigation it has basically none of the feature set the Nova Voyager has beyond the DVR motor and speed control, my guess is you simply don’t know the massive amount of features the Voyager has. Plus the lathe and DP are limited to a low speed of 250 rpm, neither of which is nearly ideal for the machines. If it works better for you fine, but making a blanket statement deserves questioning when on the face of the statement it is inaccurate.

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#11 posted 01-08-2017 04:28 AM



Been awhile since watching the video but the features seemed to require too many button presses. I ve used computerized cutters and for all that tech to be useful it has to be faster than manual.

- Rick M

That was one of my initial concerns but two things help remove that concern when actually hands on with it. First, you do have the ability to set macros so you can cover a lot of drilling needs as quickly or quicker than with a standard DP. For example even if you actually set the speed it is as quick or quicker than a reeves drive or belt system. Setting depth limits is as quick and far more accurate than using standard depth stops even if they are the quick set type. The time savings is limited for the one off hole but the more repetitive the task the more time is saved.

This isn’t a drill press for everyone, the budget alone restricts that, but it does have its place and the thing that balanced the setup speed concerns for me was how quickly the salesman and I figured out how to use the various features without even having the users manual, but it helped with both had some idea what the features actually were. It is a tiny bit like a full tilt boogie Martin shaper with auto tool selection, for many people it would actually be a hindrance in setup speed over a simple Delta HD shaper but in the proper environment and with a little time learning the machine it is a big time saver and also increases accuracy. There is certainly a geek factor like watching the real time load on the motor as you drill. The one thing I think most everyone would appreciate is the lack of vibration even well over 3,000 rpm, I think we went to about 4500, it was well below anything I have experienced except in the $3K+ range for new DPs. One thing I did not test was runout which could completely change my opinion if it is poor.

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#12 posted 01-08-2017 06:45 AM


These are very minor points.
Not going to argue with you, sorry.

- shipwright

There is no need to argue, you said it does everything the Nova does and it does not. Upon a little more investigation it has basically none of the feature set the Nova Voyager has beyond the DVR motor and speed control, my guess is you simply don t know the massive amount of features the Voyager has. Plus the lathe and DP are limited to a low speed of 250 rpm, neither of which is nearly ideal for the machines. If it works better for you fine, but making a blanket statement deserves questioning when on the face of the statement it is inaccurate.

- AHuxley

Got a sayin in these parts, the proof is in the pictures! Seen Paul’s work in person and not to much to see on your project page?

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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#13 posted 01-08-2017 06:50 AM

Got a sayin in these parts, the proof is in the pictures! Seen Paul s work in person and not to much to see on your project page?
- Andre

What does ones posted projects have to do with the operation of a machine or experience with it?
IMHO, the whole “you don’t know squat unless you have projects posted” stuff is BS.

Cheers,
Brad
(who has NO projects posted, and never will)

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#14 posted 01-08-2017 08:37 AM

Several reasons projects matter to others. It’s sharing with others, like bringing a bottle of wine to dinner at a friend’s house. And because the internet is full of internet educated experts who regurgitate google/forums/reddit but have little or no experience. And people who go around criticizing without risking criticism in return. Go on youtube and post a video, there are a lot of people who can do it (whatever) better than you but they won’t show they can do better. That’s why it matters. When someone takes the risk of posting their work it makes them less anonymous and means something to me, and I believe it means something to other people. Granted, I’m not sure it really applies to this thread but to answer the wider question of why projects matter to people, that’s why.

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#15 posted 01-10-2017 11:04 PM

I watched the online video of the Nova DVR. At $1500, it is out of my price league, but it sure looks impressive. I especially like the wide base and the quill clamp, missing from today’s consumer DP’s. I’ll stay with my 75 year old Delta until I get a windfall. It cost around $42 when new and I got it free 40 years ago. It has seen constant use ever since with never a problem. Love that old iron.

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