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01-05-2017 11:43 PM

Topic tags/keywords: plane identification

I’ve spent quite a few hours trying to identify the maker of this hand plane: http://imgur.com/a/69cNR, but I’m not sure. The only text I can find is “MADE IN U.S.A.” I purchased it from a thrift store, so I don’t know any of it’s story or whether any parts have been replaced.

My best guess is that it might be a Defiance 5-1/2 Jack Plane. I’ll try to take some more detailed photos when I get home, along with measurements.


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#1 posted 01-06-2017 12:25 AM

Just a guess but it looks like a secondary brand from Millers Fall to me..

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#2 posted 01-06-2017 03:07 AM

Ditto

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#3 posted 01-06-2017 07:58 AM

I’ve taken a few more photos and found two markings,, one on the frog (an underlined “9”), and one on the body under the frog (“C5”). So far I haven’t identified the actual manufacturer, but I’m still digging.

Here are more detailed photos: https://imgur.com/gallery/PmFZQ

This is my first hand plane, and I’m already worried about developing an unhealthy addiction. :)

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#4 posted 01-06-2017 12:14 PM

Corsiar maybe?

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#5 posted 01-06-2017 12:46 PM

When the Stanley patent expired there were a lot of manufacturers that made look alikes that hit the market. Even before that some small foundries were infringing on their patent. If they didn’t put their name on it I wouldn’t venture a guess.

If the casting is in good condition and tune able does it really mater?

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#6 posted 01-06-2017 09:37 PM

I think Don is right, I was able to find a few photos of Corsairs that closely match the one I bought. I’ll probably try to tune it as best I can, and keep it on hand, but after more research… I’m just gonna have to keep looking for a sweet vintage Stanley #4.

Thanks, everyone. It seems that woodworkers are the nicest people on the Internet.

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#7 posted 01-06-2017 10:52 PM

One question…is there a single bolt securing the frog? The Corsair C-5 I have has that sort of frog.

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#8 posted 01-06-2017 11:40 PM

I’m new to the terminology and the tool, but I believe the answer is no, there are two screws securing the frog to the body, as seen in this image: https://i.imgur.com/tDD0FF8.jpg (I loosened the screw on the right before taking the photo). Perhaps it’s an earlier model?

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#9 posted 01-07-2017 12:14 AM

Hey guys,

I will direct this question to DonW or bandit571…..I went to my in laws for Christmas, and I picked up a few old planes that my f-i-l had in his shop. He has Dementia and Alzheimer, so my m-i-l told me to get what I wanted, as he wouldn’t know the difference…..He had a Stanley #6 long bed, a Stanley Bailey #4, and a Stanley #2, and a couple of small block planes….These things are really dirty, so I need to get them cleaned up really good. I’m not really a hand tool guy because I have a very bad back, and that stooping kills me…and I’m not a plane guy, but I do have a couple..a Stanley #5 jack plane. I’m gonna clean them with either Evaporust or Vinegar piece by piece. I was told that the #2 might be worth a few coins…How do you tell the age of the planes, and what they are worth…not that I’m ever planning to sell them….

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#10 posted 01-07-2017 12:14 AM

Hey guys,

I will direct this question to DonW or bandit571…..I went to my in laws for Christmas, and I picked up a few old planes that my f-i-l had in his shop. He has Dementia and Alzheimer, so my m-i-l told me to get what I wanted, as he wouldn’t know the difference…..He had a Stanley #6 long bed, a Stanley Bailey #4, and a Stanley #2, and a couple of small block planes….These things are really dirty, so I need to get them cleaned up really good. I’m not really a hand tool guy because I have a very bad back, and that stooping kills me…and I’m not a plane guy, but I do have a couple..a Stanley #5 jack plane. I’m gonna clean them with either Evaporust or Vinegar piece by piece. I was told that the #2 might be worth a few coins…How do you tell the age of the planes, and what they are worth…not that I’m ever planning to sell them….

-- My grandpa used to say: "Y'all come back when you can....come after dinner, and leave before supper.."

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Rick Dennington

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#11 posted 01-07-2017 12:15 AM

Sorry about the double post..

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#12 posted 01-07-2017 03:15 AM

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#13 posted 01-07-2017 04:32 AM

OP’s plane is made by Great Neck Tool Co. They used that style of casting for their lever caps. Early models had wood handles, later models had plastic ones, with the finger grips. Plane can be a cambered Jack plane, and work well enough. They are a bit hold to keep settings on, though.

This is one in the #4 size.

This one would have had a “C-4” cast into the base.

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#14 posted 01-07-2017 12:00 PM

@Rick, I have a page one my web site for dating Stanley planes and searching completed post in eBay will get current prices.

http://www.timetestedtools.net/2016/01/27/stanley-bench-plane-typing/

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#15 posted 01-07-2017 02:38 PM

Thanks Don,

Once I get the planes all apart and cleaned up, and can see more information that’s stamped on them, I will study your web page in detail to find out more about these planes….Thanks again, Don…I appreciate it…

-- My grandpa used to say: "Y'all come back when you can....come after dinner, and leave before supper.."

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