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Forum topic by poopiekat posted 08-21-2010 12:46 AM 1666 views 0 times favorited 22 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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08-21-2010 12:46 AM

I just saw on the news, ‘Adam’ from the show ‘Mythbusters’ posted a pic of his customized Jeep in front of his house, on the Discovery Channel e-magazine. Somebody who knows digital imaging was able to determine that whatever camera was used to take the picture was GPS activated, and this person was able to retrieve the GPS coordinates that were embedded in the digital image, and he then proceeded to publish Adam’s home address in a Facebook page! Now Adam is inundated with personal emails, phone calls and people visiting in person, now that his personal info is public. Cripes, this is scary… do you know if your coordinates are accessible thru your digital photos that you share with us? I hadn’t heard of this before, but I’m sure that photos taken with cell phone cameras undoubtedly are GPS-enabled. Probably not your typical digital camera, but how do you know? Sheesh, aren’t we intruded upon enough already?

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!


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#1 posted 08-21-2010 01:27 AM

Holy crap!!!! That is crazy!!!! I really don’t know what to say. That is crazy.

-- -Zeke- "I hate to rush off, but I gotta go see a man about a log"

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closetguy

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#2 posted 08-21-2010 01:49 AM

A lot of the higher priced cameras have GPS tagging built. The purpose is to go on vacation snapping pictures, then when you get home, the GPS information embedded in each picture will identify where the picture was taken. It’s a pretty neat feature, however as in the above example, it’s best to keep it turned off unless you need it. As I understand it, the feature also puts a heavy drain on the camera battery.

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#3 posted 08-21-2010 06:43 AM

I work on computers for a living and I have heard of a lot of this “hidden” technology. New printers encode the serial number and other stuff on every page printed. Thats so if you are a terrorist or do something wrong they can trace it back to you. I also read that newer printers have money detectors that will lock up the printer if you scan currency to print. Then when you have it fixed or send it in it alerts the repair facility to contact the authorities to investigate it. You think that google earth and others are great looking down from the sky to get directions. Just imagine how much better the proper authorities can see. There are some cases where it can be a good thing, as long as it is not abused.

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#4 posted 08-21-2010 07:16 AM

Good post, thanks Kat.

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#5 posted 08-21-2010 08:45 AM

Well this doesn’t surprise me but certainly disturbs me. Great post.

-- Bill - "Freedom flies in your heart like an Eagle" Audie Murphy

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poopiekat

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#6 posted 08-21-2010 01:58 PM

Thanks for the great replies!
Even though the Lumberjocks site is populated with generally pleasant people, I myself was at one point harassed to the point of threats of physical force by a person who then posted a pic of what he thought was my house, gleaned from Google streets and my “workshop” information in my profile. I had instinctively put my pointer a few blocks over from my REAL location….and glad I did. That said, although this site is the most benign place I visit, the possibility of malice and mischief exists. Make sure your photos submitted here have no GPS encryption, and that goes for any site you are linked to where your location may be encrypted. Hopefully, my wife’s Nikon D-60 has no GPS capability. Please, folks, check your photos that you post anywhere on the internet!! You could be giving out more info than you intended!!!

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#7 posted 08-21-2010 04:20 PM

It is scary what you can learn on line. I was in minor rear-end accident (I was the one hit).
I checked the police web site, and it listed the full report, which I had listed my kids on since they were in the car.

I was not happy since it listed their names, ages, my name and our address.

After talking with the chief, he took my kids off of the online report, and said that they would re-evaluate their policy and not list minors on the reports posted online.

-- Do or do not, there is no try!

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#8 posted 08-21-2010 06:22 PM

Adam Savage has a Toyota Land Cruiser BJ42, not a heep.

Land Cruiser’s have Special Technology Eradication Programming. STEP for short. This does not allow the GPS systems to map it whereabouts. Adam must have disabled his feature and is now paying the price.
Don’t mess with internals of your TLC, you do so at your own peril.

Thanks jb

-- Playing with wood and metal for the last 50 years, driving and building Land Cruisers for the last 40. Experience is what you get when you don't know what you are doing.

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#9 posted 08-21-2010 10:24 PM

rimfire,
The coordinates were embedded in the digital image of the photo. I doubt that the vehicle’s GPS system was responsible for revealing it’s location to the person who posted Adam’s address, whether it was switched on or off. Essentially, this was posted to warn fellow LJs of the danger of unknowingly publishing GPS-embedded photos, whether here in the LJ site or elsewhere. BTW, I used to know of several 6 cyl TLC’s that could be had for a song, since there was no factory on Earth that could keep up with their insatiable appetite for head gaskets. That’s a topic for another thread, another time.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#10 posted 08-21-2010 11:01 PM

Hi poop,

Had/have many TLC’s and never replaced a head gasket. Let us know where all these TLC’s are, can’t have too many. By the way the STEP technology also protects against head gasket corrosion, its a very powerful application technology. VPAT for short.

Thanks jb

-- Playing with wood and metal for the last 50 years, driving and building Land Cruisers for the last 40. Experience is what you get when you don't know what you are doing.

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live4ever

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#11 posted 08-22-2010 12:03 AM

If you’d like to turn this off on your iPhone’s camera, go to Settings > Location Services. Flip the switch for “Camera” to “off.”

-- Optimists are usually disappointed. Pessimists are either right or pleasantly surprised. I tend to be a disappointed pessimist.

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poopiekat

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#12 posted 08-22-2010 12:36 AM

Thanks, live4ever! Strange how the default settings are never in our favor, right out of the box.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#13 posted 08-22-2010 02:08 PM

The “jpeg” format used by cameras is actually “exif” which includes “metadata” in the file. The metadata can be whatever the camera maker has programmed in. The original idea was that the camera settings would be saved with the picture but obviously feature creep has set in.

I’ve never played with this as I have not had any reason to but very probably you can strip out the metadata by loading the pic into a suitable application and resaving it.

My computer is at the moment non-functional and smelling slightly of charred plastic and this one is rather lacking in the kind of tools I would need but this has given me the inspiration for a little tinkering when normality resumes.

-- David

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ArtistryinWood

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#14 posted 08-22-2010 04:18 PM

Be careful about posting pics of your shop and all those nice tools $$$

Andrew

-- It seem's to me i could live my life, a lot better than i think i am. Andrew, Midland, Ont.

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Chris Cunanan

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#15 posted 08-22-2010 05:14 PM

yes, they continually come out with incremental steps of increasing surveillance, but always try to overemphasize one or two benefits or “convenience” factors of the technology….watch “police state 4: rise of fema” or “endgame: global enslavement” i promise u, there’s so many more examples of stuff like this it would make ur head spin…the rfid license plate scanners, the trash bin tags, the implantable microchips that can fit into any hypodermic needle, the smart dirt, HAARP, etc etc ETC! WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO DAMNIT! must-resist-global-enslavement, i mean government…down with the New World Order! the key agenda being eugenics, or depopulation….figure it out folks

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