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Forum topic by woodtoyZ posted 08-20-2010 06:39 AM 1772 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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08-20-2010 06:39 AM

I am thinking about dying some small pine model trucks and I have never tried it before. It seems that water based dyes like RIT raise the wood grain. Are there any good alternatives? I was thinking about trying oil based paint with a lot of thinner.


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#1 posted 08-20-2010 06:44 AM

Mix any of the powders with Denatured alcohol rather than water.

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#2 posted 08-20-2010 07:01 AM

I have recently used the Analine dyes in Denatured Alcohol. The dye went on very easily and evenly. My only word of caution is that if your are in a very warm workshop it will dry very quickly.

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#3 posted 08-20-2010 08:03 AM

Hi, whatever you use it anyway raise up all blots, especialy pine.I ‘m sure, that quality of wood processing is success. If pine have polish face – that even not some water can’t damage wood. anyway try Alcohol-base and see – what’s up, only own expirience…................ regards & good luck, Alex.

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#4 posted 08-20-2010 01:05 PM

you could wet the pine with a little water, let the grain raise and sand it flat again. the grain only raises because it was compressed by all the planing and sanding, when it gets wet it goes back to its initial position.

or alcohol based tint as suggested, but your surface needs to have a nearly perfect finish because that thing will amplify any scratch or default x 10

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#5 posted 08-20-2010 02:14 PM

NGR stain or dye

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#6 posted 08-21-2010 05:39 AM

Thanks for all of the great ideas. I will grab a few scrap pieces and experiment. It looks like dying wood is not as easy as i thought!


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#7 posted 08-21-2010 06:15 AM

I made a simple truck for my son just this past week (nothing remotely like the ones you are showing as projects). It needed to be yellow. I mixed several drops of ordinary food coloring with alcohol and put that on. Then covered it all with shellac. It came out with a nice color. I’m not sure how resistant to fading it will be, but in a year or two my son will be done with it so it won’t matter. Food coloring is water based, but it does mix evenly with the alcohol. It will bleed however if not topcoated with shellac. The reason I used alcohol was so that it would not raise the grain and would dry fast.

When my son tires of it, I may keep it just to evaluate how long the color lasts.

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