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Forum topic by Carloz posted 12-31-2016 07:12 AM 738 views 1 time favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Carloz

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12-31-2016 07:12 AM

I have crosscut and rip cut thin kerf Diablo blades from my hybrid past. They work well with exception that when trying to trim off a few mm it deflects away from the stock and the resulting cut is less than ideal.
I guess a standard kerf blade would behave better. So the question is what 40 tooth standard kerf blade that does not break the bank is worth getting ?
The one that came with the saw is very noticeably noisier and vibrates much more than Diablo blades


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#1 posted 12-31-2016 11:40 AM

Personally, I would never buy a thin kerf dado blade, but that’s just my preferences. The only time I use a thin kerf blade is for ripping.

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#2 posted 12-31-2016 01:30 PM

Great bang for the buck – Delta 35-7657 – 40T ATB, made in the USA, large micrograin carbide teeth, precision manufacturing, 0.118” kerf, laser cut anti-vibration slots, ~ $30 shipped. Considering what it is, what it costs, and how well it performs vs the top shelf premium blades, it’s one of the only general purpose blades that makes sense to me.

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#3 posted 12-31-2016 11:15 PM


Personally, I would never buy a thin kerf dado blade, but that s just my preferences.
- bruc101

Nobody would buy a thin kerf dado blade even if they wanted. No such thing exists.

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#4 posted 12-31-2016 11:19 PM

Freud LU-83R010 cut like silk and don’t flex when taking a hair off.

M

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dddddmorgan

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#5 posted 12-31-2016 11:35 PM

What Madmark said, I have the same Freud and it’s beautiful.

One thing to note, just because Freud makes thr Diablo blade line doesn’t mean they are the same thing.

The Diablo is their economy line for Home Depot and such. Going with the Freud LU series is in the 60.00-70.00$ range but you will be amazed at the difference.

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#6 posted 12-31-2016 11:38 PM

Forgot to add FWIW I use thin kerf blades exclusively. I have a nice Jet contractor saw and it’s running on 120v so the thin kerf really helps. Using the nice Freud blades I’ve never had any deflection issues or any other complaints for that matter.

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#7 posted 01-01-2017 02:55 AM

I like thin kerf blades for my underpowered job site saws. But I use full kerf LU series Freud blades on my 5 hp Sawstop except when I’m trying to cut down on waste. I also use Forrest blade stiffeners with thin kerf blades to reduce blade deflection. The blade stiffener also reduces the high pitch whine that sometimes accompanies thin kerf blade.

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#8 posted 01-01-2017 03:00 AM

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#9 posted 01-01-2017 03:14 AM

I question the quality of the diablo line now that china is a making them. Seems like the micrometers don’t work as well over there.

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#10 posted 01-01-2017 04:07 AM

Freud LU86 is a great one. I use the thin kerf.

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#11 posted 01-01-2017 03:47 PM



I like thin kerf blades for my underpowered job site saws. But I use full kerf LU series Freud blades on my 5 hp Sawstop except when I m trying to cut down on waste. I also use Forrest blade stiffeners with thin kerf blades to reduce blade deflection. The blade stiffener also reduces the high pitch whine that sometimes accompanies thin kerf blade.

- Roy Turbett


Not to hijack this thread…Roy you really like the stiffeners? I haven’t noticed any deflection issues but if they run smoother and quieter that’s a plus. Do they cut down (nice unintentional pun) on your cutting capacity?

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#12 posted 01-01-2017 06:27 PM


I like thin kerf blades for my underpowered job site saws. But I use full kerf LU series Freud blades on my 5 hp Sawstop except when I m trying to cut down on waste. I also use Forrest blade stiffeners with thin kerf blades to reduce blade deflection. The blade stiffener also reduces the high pitch whine that sometimes accompanies thin kerf blade.

- Roy Turbett

Not to hijack this thread…Roy you really like the stiffeners? I haven t noticed any deflection issues but if they run smoother and quieter that s a plus. Do they cut down (nice unintentional pun) on your cutting capacity?

- dddddmorgan

I have an lightweight direct drive job site saw that I keep a thin kerf rip blade on for ripping trim. I find that a stiffener produces a smoother cut and the reduced cutting capacity isn’t a problem because I don’t use it to rip thick stock. I seldom use a thin kerf blade on my 5hp Sawstop, but I’m also usually ripping thin stock when I do so the reduced capacity isn’t a problem.

However, I always use a blade stiffener on my 10” DeWalt GWI and my 14” Delta 40B radial arm saws. They don’t reduce the cut capacity on a radial arm saw much beyond the reduction you already have from the physical size of the motor. The thin kerf Freud LU83 on my GWI has a noticeably higher pitch than the standard kerf Freud LU84 and the stiffener helps quiet it. I have a Forrest WW1 on my Delta 40B and Forrest recommends that a blade stiffener for this blade.

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#13 posted 01-01-2017 08:18 PM

The OP is looking for full kerf recommendations on a general purpose blade. AFAIK he has a 3hp PCS and really shouldn’t need a TK blade, though I agree they can be a Godsend on smaller saws.

Forrest and other manufacturers recommend the stiffeners because they’re profitable. It’s good business. I’ve never noticed a difference with or without them, and I’ve read numerous comments of others finding the same thing. On a well tuned saw with a decent quality blade, they really shouldn’t be necessary. If a stiffeners help, there’s root cause elsewhere that’d be better addressed in the first place.

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#14 posted 01-01-2017 08:26 PM

Knottscott is right, to stick with the topic I can whole heartedly recommend a Freud LU84M011. That’s the full kerf version of what I have and it’s a winner in the all around department.

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#15 posted 01-02-2017 11:16 PM

Hi Carloz
Not to disregard the other folks helpful suggestions but Knottscott is pretty much our resident table saw and blade expert He has bought more blades just to compare them than the average woodworker and is very well informed on this subject.

Here’s some great blogs he wrote

http://lumberjocks.com/knotscott/blog/32154

http://lumberjocks.com/knotscott/blog/36699

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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