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Gixxerjoe04

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12-28-2016 12:07 AM

After selling a decent amount of stuff for Christmas, wanting to upgrade to a better bandsaw since my rigid isn’t that great. Thinking the decision is going to be between the Grizzly G0513 anniversary edition and the Laguna 1412. Trying to decide if spending the extra $200 would be worth it for the Laguna, if Laguna had their sale currently I’d probably get it since I could just pick it up at woodcraft, plus I have $100 giftcard which would help. My shop does consist of a planer, jointer, table saw and lathe from grizzly, so I do think they’re good tools. Just wanting the to see who all has either and what they like or don’t like about either bandsaw. Haven’t needed to do much resawing, do have one project I’ve waited on since I couldn’t resaw much. Plan to use it a lot for cutting out large bowl blanks round.

http://www.grizzly.com/products/17-2-HP-Bandsaw-Anniversary-Edition/G0513ANV?utm_campaign=zPage&utm_source=grizzly.com
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/854323/laguna-1412-bandsaw.aspx


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OCristo

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#1 posted 12-28-2016 01:08 AM

Although I never owned any bandsaw, I have used a few sometimes and I starting to looking for additional information on the subject as I passed to consider seriously Rikon 10-236 you can find more details at http://www.rikontools.com/productpage_10-326.html ... It looks not so cheap in both senses of the word and perhaps it is worth to give some attention to it before your final decision.

All the best,

-- An Amateur Woodworker

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AHuxley

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#2 posted 12-28-2016 01:24 AM

The Grizzly’s weakness is the poor copy of Euro guides. Between the two I would take the 14/12. The redesigned Rikon 10-326 is a good option for cheaper and the Rikon 10-342 and the higher level Grizzly 513s are good options if you extend your budget.

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Gixxerjoe04

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#3 posted 12-28-2016 02:28 AM

Yea forgot about rikon, would buy one from them as well, just wish one of the companies would have a sale or something soon haha, doubt that’ll happen since Christmas has past.

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#4 posted 12-28-2016 02:41 AM

Have the 14/12 and no significant experience with a 0513. The Laguna has been great. Smooth, powerful, easy to adjust. Good dust collection.

A brake would be great, but I’m a hobbyist; I have time to wait for the blade to stop. The fence is really good too.

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AHuxley

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#5 posted 12-28-2016 03:00 AM



Yea forgot about rikon, would buy one from them as well, just wish one of the companies would have a sale or something soon haha, doubt that ll happen since Christmas has past.

- Gixxerjoe04

Circle Saw in Houston has Rikon at or below the standard “sale” prices from Rockler and WC.

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#6 posted 12-28-2016 03:04 AM

I have the Laguna 14-12 and love it. It has plenty of power and have re-sawn 10+ inch walnut and oak without a problem. The guides are nice but it is a pain to adjust the lower guides as has been noted in other reviews. I got the wheel base which makes life easier. I have to put it in the corner when I am not using it so it was a have-to for me. The fence is good and is easy to change from high to low and back.
My last band saw was a 10 inch so this was a big step up for me and is no comparison in power and utility to the 14-12.

-- Jim, SE Tennessee, "Don't spare the kindling Dear, we have plenty"

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#7 posted 12-28-2016 03:09 AM

+1 for the Rikon 10-326
It comes with the tool-less guide system and a real 1-3/4 HP motor that can run on 120\240V.

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Gixxerjoe04

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#8 posted 12-28-2016 03:16 AM

So what’s the advantage of rewiring the bandsaws that’s the 120/240V option, to make it 240 over 120, when it’s the same motor? I’ve got both power options in my shop so doesn’t matter, just curious.

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AHuxley

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#9 posted 12-28-2016 03:56 AM



So what s the advantage of rewiring the bandsaws that s the 120/240V option, to make it 240 over 120, when it s the same motor? I ve got both power options in my shop so doesn t matter, just curious.

- Gixxerjoe04

That is an age old argument BUT the simple answer is there is NO advantage to running a dual voltage induction motor on the higher voltage except the lower amperage draw. Anyone that experiences otherwise is swallowing a placebo.

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#10 posted 12-28-2016 10:50 PM



So what s the advantage of rewiring the bandsaws that s the 120/240V option, to make it 240 over 120, when it s the same motor? I ve got both power options in my shop so doesn t matter, just curious.

- Gixxerjoe04

Two main reasons:

1) If you double your voltage you will need the half of the amperage for the same power. It means your power cabling will demand the half of the conductor section as well the half amperage breakers and protection circuits like differential breakers… it can be a serious savings to construct the infrastructure

2) Higher voltage will bring higher efficiency on conversion from electrical power to mechanical one as it will demand lower amperage for the same power. The conversion efficiency is proportional to the inverse of the square of the electrical current. That was one reason Westinghouse won Edison for electrical power distribution: higher voltage brought lower current, lower current brought higher efficiency.

Anyway from a home owner POV the better power conversion (efficiency) can be almost irrelevant but the savings from smaller gauge cables and protection circuits can be interesting…

-- An Amateur Woodworker

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AHuxley

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#11 posted 12-28-2016 11:49 PM


but the savings from smaller gauge cables and protection circuits can be interesting…

- OCristo

Even in that case it usually irrelevant in a home shop as it is unlikely anyone will run a 240v circuit lower than 20 amps so the chances of savings on wire/breaker/receptacle are limited. Even if you did a 100ft run the difference between a 14ga 15amp circuit and a 12ga 20 amp circuit would be about $15.

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#12 posted 12-29-2016 12:23 AM

I bought the Grizzly 17” aniv. saw 18months ago, I replaced my Jet 14” with riser block. I have mine running off of 220 volts but you can run it on 110 volt if you needed. I like this saw, the dust collection, table size and the blade tension is much better than my old Jet. IT has more power and I do like the Euro blade guards. I know people have been C/O Grizzly’s quality is slipping but I can tell you that this saw is a great bargain for it’s Price. I would buy this saw all over if I had to do it again. One thing I don’t care too much for is that the fence is Kinda on cheaper side.

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Gixxerjoe04

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#13 posted 12-29-2016 01:31 AM

I just wish someone would have a sale or coupon, with my luck I’ll buy one and it’ll be on sale a few days later haha.

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#14 posted 12-29-2016 05:02 AM

Just a note here to say I wouldn’t buy the Rikon 14 inch again. There’s a reason that some things are cheap, and this saw is proof. It’s difficult to adjust and I’ve run out of tension control.

Try to test something before you buy it.

On a better note, I have resawn a LOT of firewood into lumber for jewelry boxes. That includes a Kansas fence post of Osage orange.

-- Dale

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AHuxley

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#15 posted 12-29-2016 07:37 AM



Just a note here to say I wouldn t buy the Rikon 14 inch again. There s a reason that some things are cheap, and this saw is proof. It s difficult to adjust and I ve run out of tension control.

Try to test something before you buy it.

On a better note, I have resawn a LOT of firewood into lumber for jewelry boxes. That includes a Kansas fence post of Osage orange.

- dalepage

It would help if you included the model number, Rikon has made several 14” bandsaws. As of mid to late 2016 the redesigned 14” saws hit the market, the guides (which were the main issue with previous generations) has been completely redesigned.

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